Hi Michelle,

Check out the website at www.commodoreapp.com - there's instructions and screenshots for the most part. Basically you just open the app, and start writing a part of the file or folder you are looking for in the textbox at the top of the screen.

At the first run, you should probably add the folders or drives you would like to search in, through using the options page ("search folders" section).

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[ Michelle ],

According to the programmer, Commodore is for "less advanced" users.

You must be a "power user" if you can't figure out how to use it.

=8^o

I also could not figure out how to use it, for me, it's like trying to eat with a fork with no splines.

Start Commander by clicking on the program and waiting, the first load is slow, the second load is faster, it does not "install" even though the program as delivered by GOTD is called "setup", it does not setup, it just runs in place, rename it Commander if that helps, and put a shortcut wherever is convenient, right-click it to see if it offers to add a shortcut to the start menu and or taskbar if you care.

Depending on your version of Windows, you already have a simple-input powerful search engine at the [ Start ] button, via [ Cortina ] and in [ Windows File Explorer ].
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Hi Blackhat, you can specify file extensions just by typing them. There's instructions on the website (www.commodoreapp.com). For example "receipt .pdf" will find you any files with receipt in the name or parent folder name and pdf as extension.

Hi colin, go to options, "search folders" sections and add the drive there.

Torbram Bus 14 -- and anyone else who makes minimal comments like this -- your comment is rather meaningless unless you give reason(s) why your suggested alternative is better.

Tony Austin, Quite simple actually' Total Commander can do all the same as this app and even more with ease of use. Also the pallets of choice of background colours are also a option for the user as well, this and many more simplified actions allow the user to manage files better VIA a clear clean interface.

P.S. You should go onto the Total Commander home page for more details and see for yourself if you are indeed curious!!!

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[ colin ],

PATIENCE -- wait longer, it will eventually show up on screen ... start it before retiring for the night, and it will finally have popped up on screen by morning when you get up.

Then it will be faster form the second time on.

Let us know if that works for you.
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Ali, It doesn't "install" look for the program at the download location.

Ali, Try Wise Jet Search. Also free and finds everything!

I’ve used ultrasearch nearly every day for years. It seems to go faster if I don’t close it down when done which I assume is because it keeps an index as long as open.

Peter Blaise, history has shown us that were often ARE both unannounced alpha and beta testers here... case in point the recent giveaway of a 3.6.0 portable partition resizer product that was only otherwise released as 3.5.0 couple of days ago and the giveaway fell over because the zip containing 32bit and 64bit portable package the vendor put up for GAOTD to use was corrupted and the 32bit folder was incomplete with a truncated 32bit executable and GAOTD had to replace the broken 32bit portable 3.6.0 bundle with a normal 3.5.0 free installer executable. A failed unanouced alpha test is how I saw that one... When I first saw the name Commodore 1.0 today I instantly thought unusual.. a commercial Commodore 64 or PET or Vic20 emulator... is there a market for that?

Hi Peter Blaise,

Thanks for the post - a few things:

* Right-click menu has "open with" function: https://www.commodoreapp.com/images/screenshots/RightClickMenu.png

I assume you are on Windows 7? Some users have rendering issues with the context menu on Win7.

* The selected folder or file name is displayed with full path and extension in the status bar at the bottom of the screen.

* Left-clicking a folder will open it in Windows explorer yes - Commodore is not a file/folder manager - it's just a search app.

* Design target is a simpler, less bloated alternative to Everything and similar tools.

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Thanks for responding, [ Morten K ] ( the programmer of Commodore ),

You kind of prove the adage that the simpler the tool, the more complex it is to get it to do what each person needs.

We have to learn your assumptions and choices, we have to reverse engineer why your choices make sense to you, learn how you think.

That makes your supposedly simple program inordinately hard to use.

A more-flexible program may allow each user to engage it in their own way without retraining themselves to fit your invisible work-style mold,
-- I sort by file name order,
-- someone else might sort in location order,
-- the next person may prefer sorting in date order
-- the next person only want to see DOCs, wherever they landed.

I also like to be able to search in one location, such as Music, or one Artist, without having to reconfigure the entire program and lose prior settings that allowed me to search elsewhere.

I also like to do things with search results, such as highlight some or all results and copy them elsewhere, or attach them to one email, or produce a report.

I was off put by your choices:

-- not to show full filenames,
-- show a low contrast dark screen that's hard for me to read,
-- depend on Microsoft to present your program work,
-- super low contrast fine print information that is displayed unrelatedly far away on the right, and backwards ( filename ... drive:\directory ), so as to be essentially meaningless,
-- the need to look in 3 or 4 places to identify what we are looking at:
-- 1 - top left, what have I really typed ( is it spelled right ? )
-- 2 - middle left, directories and file first names only
-- 3 - middle right, the path of each item on the left
-- 4 - bottom, to see the full path and filename with the file last name
-- no wild cards.

I never noticed that Everything or Windows File Explorer were "bloated".

I use Adobe Photoshop, which has 700+ commands, and I have no problem with the 5 to 10 commands that I depend on almost every time I open it, which are different from the 5 or 10 commands someone else uses mostly, different from the next person, we each use programs in our own way, and only in that way does a program become simple for each of us, differently simple for each of us.

It really sounds as if you wanted a simpler program in order to simplify your programming self-assignment, not to accurately address people's needs in practice and make each user's experience of accomplishing their goals as simple as possible for each user.

Again, consider how hard it it to change where your program searches, over and over, as I wander through a hard drive directory structure, wanting to search only one sub-tree at a time ( say I have 100 user backups, and want to inspect them one at a time -- I have to change the configuration of your program, that takes dozens of clicks, and then ... your program does not tell me where I am searching, it is blank, and I may or may not get results, and I may or may not know why.

So, it's off to Windows File Explorer with full features anyway in order to know what I am looking at, and get anything done.

My feedback is that you have not met the base requirements of Windows File Explorer search, nor met the competition with powerful features or controls.

I think you have a neat little program that is pre-configured to search in a well-behaved user's usual places ( DON'T change the search locations because there is no way to reset them to defaults ! ).

Why would a well behaved user need to search for a file in only their normal places?

The reason we are looking is because the file we want accidently got dragged and dropped to someplace outside our usual places, otherwise, it would be where we remember we left it and we would not need to search.

In which case, your program won't help find, even though your program promises to be a search program.

I need your program to know MORE about my resources than I know, otherwise, I'm the smart one doing all the work, and your program is dumb are doing very, very little for me.

Perhaps you can modify and evolve Commodore to be a seamless add-on to Windows File Explorer to add whatever features that you think Windows search lacks at the moment.

Good luck.

Thanks.

Pre-alpha tester out.
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Hi Peter Blaise,

What you are describing is a file manager application for power users with primary purpose of browsing. This is a file search app for less advanced users. Thanks for the feedback though!

P.S The search folders at first startup are just defaults - you can add both more folders or entire drives in the options page.

Hi Morten K,

Sorry to say this ...but over here( on a windows 7) the program crashes and invokes a windows error report whenever using the right click "open with" option.
Still I was charmed by the looks and feel of your nifty little program !
(a keeper for me next to everything)

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[ Morten K ],

I'm fascinated by your bifurcation between power users and less advanced users, I've never seen a technically clear and accurate delineation of anything like that.

I now think your goals, aside from keeping your programming and or program non-installation simple, is to have a simple-appearing search to help people find a file by whatever they named it, if they named it at all, in case they don't remember where they may have saved it.

Like Windows File Explorer, when first opened, your program presents an endless list of files.

Unlike Windows File Explorer, your program presents a list of files from a variety of locations, sorted alphabetically ( I presume ) by first name.

Unlike Windows File Explorer, there are no accessible controls to re-sort and select through the search results by date or file extension.

Unlike Windows File Explorer, there is no ability to search within the contents of files for whatever the power user or less advanced user might remember or be looking for.

Like Windows File Explorer, clicking on a file opens it in the default program assigned to whatever invisible file extension is associated with the file you are clicking on.

If you or someone else accidentally dragged a file outside of the default search locations, because, hey, you or they are not a power user, then this program will not search and find your missing file wherever it is, you have to become or call on a power user to change the search location options ( which have no offering to reset to defaults afterwards ).

So let's look at the program's promises, starting with the program name:

"Commodore"

... aside from the Commodore computer, which your program is NOT emulating in software, let's look up the word:

commodore ( noun )
"commanding naval officer," 1690s, probably via Dutch kommandeur from French commandeur, from Old French comandeor ( see COMMANDER ).

Ahh, COMMANDER, that has a precedented use in computers, we all can look up COMMANDERS for Windows and more:

One Commander
Total Commander
Windows Commander
Midnight Commander
Multi Commander

... and so on.

All FILE EXPLORERS, not search tools.

So, you want a "Commander"-like name, and you are entering a field where the name has the the precedented meaning of being at least equal to if not significant enhancements over Windows File Explorer ...

... but you decline to offer "Commander"-like features, claiming that you are only a search tool, not a really a "Commander" like all the other commanders out there.

Yeah, I see where my disconnect is between what I expect a search tool to offer and what I expect a "commander" to offer.

Yeah, no.

I have many customers who are intelligent, sophisticated, and savvy, but they have no interest or imagination in the washing-machine tub of computer hard drives ( no, hard drives are not like filing cabinets ), and the only time they go looking for a file is when that file has been accidentally dragged and dropped or saved outside their usual default directories, and so, sadly, your search tool offers no benefits to these "less advanced" users ( owners / operators / authors / professionals, actually ).

Yet.

Keep working on it.

I see many programs from highly-respected power-programmers that have been in the v0.x stage for a long time, and that is where I see your program today.

Keep working on it.
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Peter Blaise, That's great Peter, thanks for your input.

Peter Blaise, you can reset the search locations back to default by deleting the settings file user.config OR renaming the executable! but that's hardly ideal seeing as the developer thinks this is designed for non-power users and such people would not normally be willing to go digging through unfamiliar folders to do something that should be built into the program. I agree with all your contructive and otherwise criticisims of this as a product. I certainly would not invite it to plough through the 2million plus files on my laptop especially as it does not use any indexing algorithms to speed up searching...

Morten K, I note you have some incorrect claims for your program, on your page you call it portable, it is NOT a portable app as it stores its settings file in
%LOCALAPPDATA%\CommodoreApp.com\Commodore10-db28dn.exe_Url_nq3tqq2nbognlnrk4qhlyxeuczw5vkd5\1.0.3.0\user.config which will probably get truncated by the wordpress comments engine.

and not with in the folder the executable resides in.

You also claim to use Fuzzy Search method but are not using any try fuzzy search algorithm files and folders still have to match the search phrase exactly no similar spellings/miss-spellings or synonyms which is what Fuzzy search algorithms use not just an exact term apearing somewhere in the path or file name, that is conventional searching.

Morten K,
Also the ecommerce provider you are using is not using industry wide security measures that all payment providers should use. They should be denying access using any version of TLS older than 1.2 as earlier versions are known to have vulnerabilities I should not be able to access https://transactions.sendowl.com/ using Internet Explorer 9 because it can only manage TLS 1.0 which all reputable ecomerce portals either do not connect to OR redirect users of the old depretiated version to a warning page and invite the user to try a different browser that does support TLS 1.2 or better. TLS 1.0 is fine for general web use like here where no payment info or sensative private info is transacted but it is wholy unsuitable for placing orders online.

shothot, the executable is not signed and the chances are you never right clicked on the giveaway bundle zip file and selected properties and unblocked the file which was blocked because it was downloaded from the internet. In that case Windows defender would have seen it as both unsigned and blocked so the default behaviour of windows is to block access to the file. You can change that default behaviour as well as prevent some of it by unblocking files you download from the internet and are sure they came from a reputable source.

gergn, if the file config.sys is a settings file for the program and NOT a kernel mode driver file the %Appdata% heirachy is the proper place IF it is its own subfolder... it is in its own subfolder ?? and not in the root %AppData% folder? It certainly should not be in the Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\ root folder or its own Program Files folder if its a writable settings file.... I do not plan on installing this as I use the voidtools.com search program "Everything" to fill in the gaps in Windows 10 broken search program.

Hi gergn,

%AppData% is as the name implies, Windows storage for applications. It requires less permissions than writing to an arbitrary location on the file system. If you're wondering what is being stored there, it's the settings from the "options" panel.

TK, the user.config file is in the folder C:\Sandbox\username\sandboxname\user\current\AppData\Local\CommodoreApp.com\20190110_gaod_commodore.e_Url_pomzsmgt52pu2nvzbhirp51zybsr2nzz\1.0.3.0

I changed the name Setup.exe to 20190110_gaod_commodore.exe

My C-drive is very small (128 GB), my D-drive is 1.5 TB. That is the second reason I prefer applications to store their data in their own folder, that is usually located on the D-drive, instead of in %AppData%. I do not know how to move %AppData% to the D-drive..

gergn, https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/949977/relocation-of-the-users-directory-and-the-programdata-directory-to-a-d

gergn, you need to run only portable installations then or old fashioned XP programs that required users be using admininstrator type accounts because it stores the settings files in the Program Files... You could map a folder on the secondary drive to the Roaming folder... You might even be able to redefine the accounts %AppData% system variable to a location of your choice on your secondary drive... I've not tried that myself Always do full image backups before you do such system hacking as it is possible to break windows 10 pre-installed apps fiddling with the location and contents of the AppData sub folders.

gergn, just had a closer look and in fact this does NOT store its settings in %AppData% envorment variable location but in the other sub folder off users\username\AppData\Local

Note AppData\Roaming which is where %AppData% points to. On my Windows 10 laptop that has a similar configuration to yours I relocated most of the frequently written to folders over to the larger magentic drive to save SSD life. I have relocated the environment variable over to my D: drive I forget exactly how I did it but that does not relocate the AppData\local folder and subfolders though. The actual variable you'd need to relocate is the %LOCALAPPDATA% folder.

I think but do not recommend you to play with since certain sub folders WILL NOT move to the new location but right clicking on Local, LocalLow and Roaming subfolders of AppData folder and selecting Properties does offer you a location tab just like right click Properties on Documents and Download and Pictures and Videos folders but extreme caution needs to be exercised windows wont move in use files and their folders and when I moved folders over offline the apps that refrenced those files and folders broke badly as if they don't use the environment variables but are hard coded to the specific folders off of AppData which is just like Microsoft to break its own rules!

Curiously, the program does run, if I run setup.exe from within the zip file.

Oreguy, hi - have you downloaded and installed the necessary .NET framework version? Write at support@commodoreapp.com and I'd be happy to help out.

Oreguy, 1 file in the zip file?
That is normal. Windows opens the file itself and installs it

Fernand Constantin, it is normally recommended to "Extract All" the giveaway zip bundle to its own folder so all of the files are extracted to the same location and not to seperate temporary folders so that a wrapped installer can function so the SETUP.EXE can see and read the SETUP.GCD file which it could not if you ran just the SETUP.EXE and the SETUP.GCD remained hidden inside the archive file.
If there is no SETUP.GCD file in a zip bundle you might get away with running the SETUP.EXE from "within" the ZIP archive. (Really it is just extracted on its own to a temporary folder and windows then attempts to launch it from there.)

Deke, Yes. Personally I use ''Everything''. Super-fast search allowing 'Wildcards' etc, totally free. Would recommend.

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[ Colin ],

And we CAN change DOS window dimensions and fonts ( through it's Properties and Defaults ), and we CAN highlight-and-copy from the results.
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David J Wilson,
Commodore does another job, its fuzzy search does find more than Everything, if you just remember one word or phrase of the file you will find.

David J Wilson, it's just been released and the price might change. Regardless this is a giveaway so you don't have to pay :-)

Soe - you can't have tried Everything, which does (among plenty of other things), exactly that.

soe, what the description above describes as "fuzzy search" is NOT a real fuzzy search algorithm but just sub string matching which Everything can do too.

Fuzzy Search does not require an exact match to your specified search parameters. Real Fuzzy searching Invoice would likely also return items named Bill or Receipt as well as files and folders containing the word Invoice and plurals etc It would have a database of synonyms or close synonyms to expand the specified search parameters. Prioritizng exact matches and rating the the synonym matches lower in relevence.
This can be great or can be really annoying and is used to present you with sponsored listings in some search engines as well as with the returned search results.

TK, Everything can also communicate with other programs via it's API / SDK. Also to search for file-content. But it is weak on "fuzzy" searches.

Snurre Sprett, agreed that Everything does not do or claim to do fuzzy searches. It does do advanced filtered searches and regex searches, I was not going to try todays giveaway until I found out it does not formally install and is minimally invasive... and it certainly does not do fuzzy searches advanced filtered searches or regex... it is a very simplistic program. This certainly does not search file contents or provide any API to enable it to. Also It runs under Vista SP2+ without it making any complaints.

Martin,
just click on options - change options - Search settings - mark Search only the below extensions... - scroll down - put the cursor in the next freeline ant type your extension like .ext (with a sentence point before) - last click on Save extensions.
That ist is.

Hi Martin,

The "search only extensions below" radio button should be selected. Then after adding a new extension in the list, you should press the "save extensions" button.

If this doesn't work, that's a new bug. In that case it would be great if you could write me at support@commodoreapp.com with a bit more info on what exact steps you are taking and what happens (or doesn't happen). Thanks!