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   Anonymous
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   http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/news/windows-8rt-touch-interface-confuses-frustrates-early-users

   Windows 8/RT touch interface confuses, frustrates early users
   Some early users of Microsoft's Surface RT tablet say they are confused or frustrated by the touch interface on the 10.6-in. display and are relying instead on the attachable keyboard with its more conventional track pad and arrow keys to input commands.

   Most long-time Windows users are expected to eventually make the adjustment to a touch tablet.

   But analysts say many users will first training classes from makers of all types of Windows 8 devices - not just the RT operating system designed for mobile devices.

   Many said that workplaces will need to incur costs to train traditional Windows desktop users to use the Windows 8 touch input, whether the OS is used on the Surface RT, the Surface Pro tablet that's coming in less than three months or on Windows 8 and Windows RT tablets made by third party manufacturers.

   "Plenty of people who are Windows lovers ... will say 'Oh, this is just Windows on a tablet' and will be frustrated,"

   "Gartner is only going to recommend Windows 8 on x86 processors," he said.

   Posted 11 years ago #
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   mikiem2
   Moderator

   Windows 8/RT touch interface confuses, frustrates early users

   :-)
   My son was very generous & gave me a 7" tablet running Android ICS as a B/Day gift. My wife is a very average Windows user [she'd want me to add above average gamer, but I digress], mainly because I take care of maintenance for her [e.g. installing GOTD games while she's at work] so she's never had reason to learn more about Windows itself. Took her maybe 30 seconds to start using my Android tablet -- in its case the on button icon was hard to see.
   :-)

   Posted 11 years ago #
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   Anonymous
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   I ok on a PC but no good on a Phone had a Pantech with Camera in the end give it to my daughter I don't need a cell Phone to old
   My daughter not like landline get me to ring fist don't know way ?

   he said recommend Windows 8 on x86 processors only
   but I thlnk 64-bit be better

   Posted 11 years ago #
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   Whiterabbit-uk
   Games Guru

   Same here Hotdog. I only ever used a cell phone when I was working as a courier in between teaching jobs back in the mid 90's. Since then I've not really found the need for one.

   I'm still suspicious of a cover up over the possibility of microwave damage to the left and right parts of the brain nearest to the ears. Cell phone manufacturing and distribution are multi billion dollar industries so I can imagine they spend a lot of money on research trying to quash such 'rumours'.

   When I worked at the Plant Breeding Institute as a student (Cambridge University), I was asked to write up a research paper on the effects of the cabbage white moth larvae (Mamestra brassicae) on cruciferous crops(oilseed rape etc) and the potential for fungal damage before and after using a particular insecticide/fungicide combination (sponsored by BASF chemicals). When I submitted my research to my mentor, she scrubbed out all the data that didn't fit what they were trying to prove. That incident has always made me dubious of any research that involves significant amounts of money. I even turned down sponsorship from British Nuclear Fuels who were going to sponsor my first Masters degree because I was suspicious of their motives).

   The long term use of mobile phones has yet to be proven conclusively that there is no effects on brain tissue. I don't want to risk destroying what few brain cells I have left just for the convenience of using a mobile phone, despite the obvious benefits of carrying one with you at all times, (lol). Then again having one means you are available to anyone 24/7. (by the way, I'm not a technophobe, on the contrary I love tech)

   Posted 11 years ago #
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   mikiem2
   Moderator

   "I only ever used a cell phone when I was working as a courier in between teaching jobs back in the mid 90's. Since then I've not really found the need for one."

   Really Don't wish to add salt to a wound, but I think you'd find good reason if life was more normal today. My wife would be lost without hers... she uses it for everything from calls & text messages when she's away from home to an alarm clock in the morning. She can't always take a call so they're stored the same as text messages. And in the US at least pay phones have almost disappeared entirely, while it seems everybody expects you to be able to call or receive calls 24/7. OTOH she has neither interest in nor patience for most of the other stuff on her Android smartphone, e.g. rather than use the GPS or map stuff she'll phone me or our son to pull up a map on a PC... I'm not entirely sure why.

   "My daughter not like landline get me to ring fist don't know way ?"

   I *think* for most people simpler is better, so a regular telephone is better than a cell phone in that regard. But if you need to have a phone away from home, I think many people feel that having just one phone is simpler than having both a cell phone & a landline, plus it's cheaper paying one phone bill.

   "he said recommend Windows 8 on x86 processors only
   but I thlnk 64-bit be better "

   It's confusing but I think he's referring to a PC processor rather than the ARM processor in most smart phones & tablets.

   The way he talks about it x86 means the machine instructions the processor understands -- ARM processors speak a different machine language, which is why PC software including regular Windows won't work with them. But x86 can also mean a 32 bit PC processor, & 64 bit processors may be referred to as x64, or by AMD64 or something similar [even when the CPU could be made by AMD or Intel], I think because a similar Intel based name was already used for 64 bit Intel Xeon CPUs, which are different from Intel's regular CPUs. It's confusing.

   Posted 11 years ago #
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   mikiem2
   Moderator

   PCWorld - "ARM, Microsoft collaborating on 64-bit Windows version"

   http://www.pcworld.com/article/2013405/arm-microsoft-collaborating-on-64bit-windows-version.html

   " ARM is working with Microsoft to tune the Windows OS to work on processors based on ARM's 64-bit architecture, an ARM official said this week.

   Ian Forsyth, program manager at ARM, could not comment on a specific release date for the 64-bit version of Windows for ARM processors, but said ARM is continuously working with software partners to add 64-bit support. "

   Posted 11 years ago #

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