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Giveaway of the day — Bitobit Mithril Password Manager

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$39.95 EXPIRED
User rating: 168 (16%) 860 (84%) 75 comments

Bitobit Mithril Password Manager was available as a giveaway on December 11, 2008!

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Store all your passwords and sensitive information securely in a single place. The Bitobit Mithril Password Manager application will make password management easier and more secure by marrying a single-click user interface with secure cryptographic algorithms to protect your sensitive information.

Use Bitobit Mithril Password Manager as a secure scratch book to keep sensitive information such as activation codes, product keys and credit card numbers securely protected yet easily accessible.

Features:

  • Your private information is secured.
  • All your passwords and important data is in one place.
  • You will never lose your passwords any more.
  • You can use as many passwords as you want, because now you don't have to remeber it.

System Requirements:

Windows 98/Me/2000/XP/2003 Server/Vista

Publisher:

Bitobit Software

Homepage:

http://bitobit.com/mithrilpm.html

File Size:

1.20 MB

Price:

$39.95

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#75

#59, Ashraf, you pay for software when it works better than the alternatives. Sticky Password has a great UI, it integrates into browsers and some other software, like my PIM, with a single button where the minimize, maximize/restore, and close buttons are. It's not obnoxious and intrusive like Roboform. Good password managers provide not only security, but convenience. Sticky Password auto-fills password fields, no need to open a UI and copy/paste, no need to press buttons at all. Auto-login (submit) doesn't always work, but it works better than Roboform on my PC. It supports multiple logins per account. Sticky Password can auto-fill passwords and other data in programs other than browswers. It can launch programs, and launch browsers to websites via its own quick search. It can be also be accessed from its tray icon for browsers which it doesn't integrate with. It monitors keyboard hooks, the clipboard chain, and executables (deep scan, much of which overlaps my security software and was causing conflicts with its scanner, so I turned that feature off, although I may test whether clipboard monitoring alone conflicts). If it needs to use the clipboard temporarily, the data hasn't shown up in any clipboard extenders I've used. It can unlock/lock the database when devices are plugged-in/removed. It has an on-screen keyboard to foil keyloggers. It can create/update as many portable versions as you want. It checks the integrity of the portable devices and their files. You specify what to place/update, it calculates how much additional space will be required, and it gives you overwrite prompts when updating. It can create multiple database backups.

I don't know what people are objecting to in my comment #47. It could be Firefox zealots who can't stand people using other browsers. The features/add-ons/plug-ins/toolbars/extensions I use have been available for years on IE before they were available for Firefox, if it all. IE has features I use which Firefox doesn't. Firefox 3 added some, but still doesn't have others (the Firefox zealots didn't even know that Firefox 3 borrowed a number of features from IE7 and its add-ons, just as IE7 borrowed a number of features from Firefox). I'm not going to get into the security issues, I find Firefox users and many security sites are biased and irrational on security issues. Most so-called security issues assume you aren't running any security software at all, let alone top-rated security software. The typical supposed IE security issue goes like this: "You have to go to a website which says 'This is an evil malware website'. Then you have to click through ten consecutive IE dialog boxes, all of which say 'By continuing, you agree to install evil malware on your computer'. If you use Vista with UAC and IE in Protected Mode, you won't be affected. We'd post an example, but we haven't figured out how to create a real-world exploit of this security vulnerability; at the present time, this is just a theoretical exploit. We rate this vulnerability as super ultra critical. Firefox doesn't have this problem." It's true that there are real security issues and Firefox generally closes their holes faster than Microsoft does, but many of the supposed vulnerabilities are biased and blown out of proportion (never seen in the real world, requiring repeated stupidity on the part of the user, or blocked by decent security software). Many vulnerabilities aren't due to the browsers, but the add-ons (Flash, Acrobat, media players, etc.)

As for commenting on Google Toolbar 5's limited form-filling features, I like them because they're intelligent (able to automatically interact with various form formats and controls), unobtrusive (automatic prompts which don't require a response in the negative case), have a full-form preview available, and are automatically portable. Form-filling is a standard feature of password managers, Google Toolbar and Sticky Password perform different form-filling roles.

Reply   |   Comment by Fubar  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#74

hihih... sry long time no post my comments le...
i'm using notorn 360, quite okay le mah... so i think i'll skip 2dae's giveaway...
but those whom haven had any password storage, i think it's worth a try... but made sure you still have a back up (ur brain) store the password, else if your com crash... gg...
but thankx gotd

Reply   |   Comment by kent  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#73

I use SCARABAY, check out my blog post on password managers:
The password storing and filling problem

Reply   |   Comment by amolpatil2k  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#72

Thanks but no thanks. I don't like a company who can't even spell check their own software. Especially if they expect you to pay $40 for it.

Reply   |   Comment by applefox  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#71

Bruce Schneier's Password Safe is the only one mentioned above that I'd trust (and that, after checking the source and compiling it myself :-) )

http://passwordsafe.sourceforge.net/

Reply   |   Comment by G  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#70

Keepass is also cross platform for those that wish to use a Linux implementation when accessing sensitive web sites (banks etc).
I use it on a flash drive to give portability.
As others have said you can make it secure by using a combination of password and key file to logon. In my case I keep the key file on a memory card (left over from an old camera). ((Actually two cards, in case I lose one!))
LastPass is worth consideration for all those lower security sites and has the advantage of being being both cross platform and computer independent.
If you want to be extra careful for those really sensitve sites then store your password in segments on multiple password managers eg. LastPass, Keepass and in you head!

The notebook approach is better than the head as regards to having long and random passwords but if you use special characters your typing needs to be reliably accurate. It also puts you in direct conflict with a stipulation of most banks. Thats why I favour a combined approach. Use password managers to make it long and random and your head to personalise and add obfuscation.

Reply   |   Comment by Carl  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#69

Not bad, but I'll keep using "password Coral" freeware, works well on just about anything. Thanks anyway

Reply   |   Comment by Fred  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#68

For some online web 2.0 password managers that you might find useful look at http://www.passpack.com/en/home/ and at https://lastpass.com/ I have not tried these myself but one day when I have a spare moment I will because they do appear useful. I use KeePass for carrying my password with me currently. It is useful but unfortunately the newest version is not portable. That's where I think the online password managers might be useful in some instances.

Reply   |   Comment by Leland  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#67

Another possible choice: Lastpass freeware password manager
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Password-Managers-Generators/lastpass.shtml

Reply   |   Comment by peli11  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#66

don't like keypass, give me errors when I try to reopen it and it has no auto fill that I can find

Reply   |   Comment by D  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#65

AlPass v2.74 for free is the best. A few of their products are
going to license form but AP still free as are the common tools.

http://www.altools.com/Default.aspx

Reply   |   Comment by Frank Graham  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#64

GUI looks really crappy. There are better freewares than this commercial one. Also I don't like applications adding themselves to system startup without telling me first (Thanks to GAOTD for AnVir Task Manager). Also, uninstaller didn't close the application, so it wasn't removed completely, had to delete the EXE and some other files manually.
A BIG thumbs down.

Reply   |   Comment by DDS  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#63

Thanks for this password manager, but it's truly the worst one ever seen, paid or freeware.

Reply   |   Comment by jermon  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#62

well i think its a good program, but there is 2 problems. 1. i can use keepass. 2. i dont think im gonna need or use it

Reply   |   Comment by stefan  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#61

Thanks GAOTD but NO THANKS Bitobit Software.

I checked out Bitobit Software site. Humm!!! They offer 2 products:
-Bitobit Mithril Password Manager (offered here today)
-Bitobit Compolife(freeware).("collects various statistics about your computer. For example how many keys were pressed or how many times you clicks with your mouse...")

Maybe I'm a bit too cautious but I tend to stay away from companies that offer ONLY "personal & sensitive information management software. It makes me question the programmer's honesty.

Who is Bitobit Software- Where is Bitobit Software from???? No clue, no information about their history etc...
They offer software that picks up your personal info, but give no information about their own company, a little fishy, if you ask me.

Need help from BITOBIT; Request support on their homepage and this is the support you get:(word for wrd: oops word)
"We'r trying to help any user of our software.
You can always ask any questions about our programs through the ticket system: Create Support Ticket"

HELP???? WHAT???? WAIT???? Will I get a reply to my cry for help????????????????

LACK OF TRUST

Reply   |   Comment by Suzyville  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#60

Is there any conflict with keypass and roboform? I have roboform on the on PC and would like to somehow get the password info onto key pass to use on other pc's.
thanks

Reply   |   Comment by D  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#59

Why pay for Sticky Password when there are viable free alternatives (assuming you do not have it from the GOTD giveaway)? o_o'

Reply   |   Comment by Ashraf  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#58

RoboForm and the like are invasive and a major security risk. I have Comodo "iVault" which offers secure copy/paste options. The full security suite is under evaluation on my XP machine. It takes knowledge and savvy but, it catches everything. I have Spybot/TeaTimer running as well to backup the eval software.

Reply   |   Comment by w2wScribe  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#57

Note on Firewall Plus....

It can be annoying as it pops up many times while visiting websites. This actually tells you what other sites and being assecces. You'll find many that begin with ads., which of course are ad tracking cookies. You will have to allow it, for pictures to appear proparly on the page, but click on the Privacy tab in Internet Explorer and add the site into the box od restricted sites. This will prevent cookies being generated from the ad website. If you have any problems, simply go back into internet Expllorer options and remove the site that may be causing a web page to not display properly.

To eliminate all these popups, you can choose Quiet mode and beginner mode on installation and that will reduce the popups.

Be carefully when choosing allows block option.

Reply   |   Comment by reghacker  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#56

LACK OF TRUST

I checked out Bitobit Software site. Humm!!! They offer 2 products:
-Bitobit Mithril Password Manager (offered here today)
-Bitobit Compolife(freeware).("collects various statistics about your computer. For example how many keys were pressed or how many times you clicks with your mouse...")

Maybe I'm a bit too cautious but I tend to stay away from companies that offer ONLY "personal & sensitive information management software. It makes me question the programmer's honesty.

Who is Bitobit Software- Where is Bitobit Software from???? No clue, no information about their history etc...
They offer software that picks up your personal info, but give no information about their own company, a little fishy, if you ask me.

Need help from BITOBIT; Request support on their homepage and this is the support you get:(word for wrd: oops word)
"We'r trying to help any user of our software.
You can always ask any questions about our programs through the ticket system: Create Support Ticket"

HELP???? WHAT???? WAIT???? Will I get a reply to my cry for help????????????????

Thanks GAOTD but NO THANKS Bitobit Software.

Reply   |   Comment by Suzyville  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#55

@50,

That's why everyone should consider a firewall that uses application blocking.

I'm may be a little biased, because I used to work for this company, but their PcTools Firewall Plus has this feature even in the free version. You can download the free version here:
http://www.pctools.com/firewall/

You simply click on the application in the list under the Applications button, and you can block access for any application.

Reply   |   Comment by reghacker  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#54

@Reeker. #49:
Everything is working alright though this does not seem the case.
The Error content is weird though and doesn't belong there.

When you close the program (there is also a timer that does that for you, check that to) the programm is not really shut down, but minimized to the tray. Easily overseen.

Restore from there and you're up again or exit it from the tray. You will be able to restart BMPM again.
The Error content should be in this case "BMPM stil running"

Reply   |   Comment by ALF  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#53

This one does what its supposed to and fairly well, but I wouldn't pay for it or request a license Password Gorilla is a good (and free) alternative as well.

Reply   |   Comment by Mike  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#52

Interesting!

I was going to start a thread over in forums asking members to recommend their favorite password protection program, as I find myself in need of one. Today's giveaway kinda makes that all moot now, huh?

I've gotten several freebies from GAOTD and really do love this site, but it looks like I'll be passing on this one. I'm not compter savvy enough to undo the mistakes/errors this program is likely to create. If its too "shady" or shaky for yous, who seem to know so much about computers, it scares the heck outta me!

I will be checking into some of the alternate programs mentioned but I'll give Bitobit a pass. Thanks anyway.

Reply   |   Comment by katchy  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#51

Comment #1: I have Roboform2Go installed on a USB drive and can use it on any PC. Don't know if you could do the same with this. Just a thought.

What I'd really like is a password manager that:

1: Works with Google Chrome (Roboform doesn't, does this?)

2: Has both a Mac and PC version with a shared database that I could keep on the USB stick on my keychain. No luck there either.

Reply   |   Comment by Mr 270  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#50

Passwordsafe is free and opensource. You never want to put your passwords and other sensitive information into closed-source applications from no-name companies. How do you know what the application is doing with your passwords and where it is transmitting them to behind your back?

Reply   |   Comment by Balaji Ramanathan  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#49

Installed,saved my info and seemed quite easy. Then I got a language error upon restart and the proggy shut down. Can't get into the proggy to see my passwords so it isn't of much use to me. Back to keepass and whisper32 I guess.

I would not recommend this program due to the "rough" experience I had with it. I also did send feedback as the nag screen asked for upon uninstall.

Reply   |   Comment by Reeker  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#48

The Vendor's website for PINs is:

http://www.mirekw.com/winfreeware/pins.html



PINs is a free feature-rich Windows program for safe and comfortable storing of any secure information like passwords, accounts, PINs etc. PINs uses a secure 448 bit Blowfish algorithm to ensure the data are not crackable. The password used for securing access to stored data is not saved anywhere.
PINs does not require installation and does not need any special dlls, drivers or system files which can mess up your system. This means that PINs can run directly from floppy - including data files - without installing anything. This is extremely useful if you wish to easily access your data on other computers as well.

_____________________________

Today's giveaway is another overly expensive "questionable worth" product that leaves much to be desired in several areas. The Vendor does not appear straight forward so is therefore as questionable as their product. Enough "was not said" about the product to make it not worth downloading or installing.

Reply   |   Comment by bobbie jones  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#47

In addition to my comment #6, I use the Google Toolbar for name and address auto-filling, which works on most, but not all, forms. It's capable of storing local, encrypted credit-card info, but I use Sticky Password for that. The Google Toolbar is another plugin which recent versions of Firefox broke (one of a number of reasons why IE is still my main browser). Sticky Password has been improved since the giveaways. I find it pointless to list password manager features here, you can check the websites and download trials. There's a learning curve with the major password managers. One minor quirk of Sticky Password is that it requires a login value even if the form doesn't have a login. No big deal, you give Sticky Password a login (which won't be used) and it fills out the form correctly.

Reply   |   Comment by Fubar  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#46

Re: 30&34

Thanks for the headsup on PINS - only doubt is that it was last updated five years ago.

Reply   |   Comment by JayPee  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#45

@reghacker, #30, 34:
Thanks for suggesting Pins. This is really a nice small freeware pw-mgr., packed with all the necessary features.

@caulbox, #27: Pins has copy buttons too.
@D, #37: and yes Pins does, it's call superpaste.

Leaving password-safe, AnyPassword and bitobit-mithril-pw-mgr far behind.

Roboform and Sticky Password, I used them both, but both got me into trouble, conflicting with other (sandboxing) software I use. Sofar KeePass was mine to use, but I will give Pins a serious lookover. It could very well defeat KeePass.

Reply   |   Comment by ALF  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#44

$40.00???? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. It's good to start the day with a laugh. I've been on the look-out for a new password manager. The one I've been using, Fox Password Manager, doesn't leave room for all the extra information banking institutions require these days and hasn't been upgraded even once in the 3 years I've had it. Roboform, most folks love it. Me, I fight with it and between the two of us we got locked out of two banking sites. Keepass (a freebie), I just installed and will give a good tryout. Certainly looks as though it is close to what I was looking for.

Reply   |   Comment by kalmly  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#43

KeePass [http://keepass.info/]
Open Source alternative that does have autofill, & much more...

Requires no installation -- can be stored/used on a floppy, USB stick etc -- can use password, key file, or both -- can import existing password lists in most formats, some thru plug-ins [a real necessity that many password mgrs fail to include]... See list of features [http://keepass.info/features.html]

Reply   |   Comment by mike  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#42

oh yeah and here too http://www.bitobit.com/mithrilpm_welcome.html

Reply   |   Comment by Joe Henry Jr  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#41

oh yeah and their website has broken links ...not a good thing in my book http://bitobit.com/mithrilpm_uninstall_feedback.php

Reply   |   Comment by Joe Henry Jr  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#40

Installed app and it crashed first off...(activation.exe) then asks for a "demo" password.....

Reply   |   Comment by Joe Henry Jr  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#39

I tried, and actually bought, Sticky Password, but I removed it and went with RoboForm (which I still use). That was so long ago, I can't remember why I parted with Sticky Password. Some weird or annoying thing it kept doing.

Anyway, free, this program doesn't appear able to cut anyone's mustard. Interface old as the hills, questionable backend support and who knows what encryption it's using, or if it's even using any! You don't keep sensitive information in something this flaky, you just don't. As if that isn't enough, certainly, you can get far better for less than forty bucks! This is so overpriced that it's hardly even worth getting it here at GAOTD! Like someone already said, what if you have to reload Windows? Huh?
No one has to listen to me of course, but I'd STRONGLY suggest passing on this (no pun intended).

Reply   |   Comment by The Mokoda  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#38

I am still using Passkeeper - an oldie and a goodie. It does not have export or printing capabilities and it does have a limit to the number of entries.

Has anyone figured out how to export and or print from Passkeeper?

Reply   |   Comment by walterg  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#37

Do any of the open source password managers have a button to auto fill? like roboform?

Reply   |   Comment by D  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#36

As Fubar stated, Sticky Password is great. It is my password manager. I was introduced to it here, and it was offered here a couple of times since then. It has a password function to get into it, a password generator and it is portable. Sticky Password can be syncronyzed with the main program to the flash drive for use in another computer or laptop. I haven't seen where the Firefox plugin broke, but I may not be using the latest version yet. (I did buy it, I was so impressed with it.)
Thanks anyway, GAOTD!

Reply   |   Comment by anonymuse  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#35

As a few commenters have said, KeePass is a great free password manager. Lifehacker readers rated is as the best password manager.

Reply   |   Comment by Davin Peterson  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#34

Forgot, here's the download link for Pins:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Security/Password-Managers-Generators/PINs.shtml

Reply   |   Comment by reghacker  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#33

Sorry to say, very poor quality software, looks like someone's second year csc project. Try out KeePass open source and freeware and has 10 times more features and security than this one.

Reply   |   Comment by Shafqat Ahmed  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#32

Password Safe or any number of free programs do this job for free. Does anyone actually pay these people $40?

Reply   |   Comment by davidrs  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#31

Yesterdays game was a puzzle game called Card Spin and today’s game is a evolution/simulation game called Sandbox of God.

Card Spin:

http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/4383



Sandbox of God:

http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/4391?replies=3#post-47167

Reply   |   Comment by Whiterabbit aka Stephen  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#30

I installed and compared it to my password manager. Today's giveaway was very simplistic in design and does not have not have near the options that my present password manager does. An again, it's an unkwn encryption algorythm.

I'd suggest an open source program called Pins.

Here's the features:
It is a free feature-rich Windows program for safe and comfortable storing of any secure information like passwords, accounts, PINs etc. PINs uses a secure 448 bit Blowfish algorithm to ensure the data are not crackable. The password used for securing access to stored data is not saved anywhere.

It is a program that safely stores informations like passwords, accounts and PIN numbers.

Here are some key features of "PINs":

· Secure 448 bit Blowfish encoding.
· Unlimited number of entries and data files.
· A clear tree-like data organization which allows logical grouping of systems and accounts.
· Automated login into Internet services (SuperPaste).
· A powerful random passwords generator.
· Safe files wiping using Gutmann, DoD and custom methods.
· Embedded hyperlinks launching.
· Unlimited in size, multi-line descriptions.
· A flexible data import/export in text format.
· Multiple user accounts on a single PC.
· Accounts sorting using any column as a sort criteria.
· Comfortable accounts adding, editing, and deleting.
· Compatibility with popular clipboard extenders.
· Passwords masking.
· Copy logins and passwords to the Windows clipboard.
· Find/find next functions.
· Expired passwords tracking.
· Running from a floppy without saving settings to registry.
· Multilingual versions.
· Full source code available.

Reply   |   Comment by reghacker  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#29

I use roboform, but I wonder if using a memory stick is best. Some have commented that a memory stick might not be that secure. I have a 1 GB privacy vault memory stick, uses password protection and software that you can download from the website (if you lose it or have to reinstall) and it costs about $20. Wonder if I should use this instead of Roboform?

Reply   |   Comment by surfriot  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#28

In response to #19 - Roboform is free for 10 passwords (which can be used on as many websites as desired). I used Roboform free for years until I felt able to afford the paid version.

Reply   |   Comment by Barry Stinson  –  7 years ago  –  Did you find this comment useful? yes | no (0)
#27

I recommended Any Password earlier, on the strength of the usefulness of it's copy/paste buttons. My recommendation stands, but so as not to confuse anyone, I now feel the need to add that I've just discovered that the current versions of Any Password appear to have removed the three paste buttons (which once existed for username, password, and URL). A paste button does remain (for pasting entire password records), but that isn't what I was referring to.

Still, it's the copy buttons which are the really useful ones, and thankfully they do remain. There's also a slightly annoying "Upgrade to Any Password Pro" message which has found it's way into the latest version. For me, the interface is more comfortable, after deselecting the Menu option in the interface choices.

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Kelly, don't loose your memorystick! Can you guarantee you don't?
And if it is password protected, do you store the password on that stick you recommend?

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