Giveaway of the Day Forums

1. 

   fever
   Member

   I seem to be having a problem leaving a comment on the download page of the daily giveaway.

   I have left a few comments, and they never show up on the page, ever??

   They are not offensive and I don't ever make trouble here.

   So why don't my comments show up????

   I think my opinion is every bit as valid as anyone else's.

   Posted 13 years ago #
2. 

   notblocklox
   retired

   Hi and welcome to the forums fever.
   Sorry, but there is no definite answer to your question. We had that discussion several times before, please scan the forums for those threads.
   You are not the only user who has problems to get a comment through sometimes. We mods and admins had the same experience too.
   The forums and the comments are moderated by different persons, only BuBBy is administrator here and there,of course not 24/7; he is always helpful, if somebody has a concrete question.

   graylox

   Posted 13 years ago #
3. 

   fever
   Member

   So, is this not a "concrete question"?

   Oh well. Thanks for the welcome and the reply.

   Posted 13 years ago #
4. 

   BuBBy
   Teh adnim

   I haven't been moderating lately (that's my disclaimer) - so I went back to see if your comment was still there. It was...

   fever
   Submitted on 2010/07/10 at 4:10am

   52 thumbs up, and no comments? Hmm. That’s weird.

   Speaking of weird, I don’t really get what this program would be good for. Ok, maybe to make a disk label, but what else?

   I’ve been sitting in this office clicking away for years, and never once have I had a need for a 3D image of a box.

   But you wait.

   Tomorrow afternoon, only a few hours after this giveaway is done, someone will call me up and say…”heyyyyyyyy, you know what kind of image I really really need”?

   Let me think on this and see what the others say.

   Here is my take on this comment (Don't take this personally - there are plenty from others exactly like it...

   1. Comment on Votes/Thumbs etc - some people even suggesting there is some conspiracy to change history or something was improper, the vendor has voted on their own product to make it look better than it really is (never with any proof other than 'the votes are turning out different to what I think they should').

   2. Little story of how you have no use for the software, or cannot see the point of such software. Other users just prefer to announce the giveaway is "crap", or that it is a trial (they downloaded the wrong link or didn't see the readme).

   3. "I think I'll wait and decide later" - completely unhelpful almost as much as users who post "It looks nice, but I haven't downloaded it yet - I wait to see what everyone else says. I have to go to the shops and buy some milk first". Post your views on the software after you have downloaded and used the software. If everyone posted "I'll decide whether to download it later" - just think what the comment section would look like.

   Perhaps whoever was moderating felt that the comment really offered nothing extra or worthwhile. Occasionally some such comments do slip through - but more often than not the moderators try to spare everyone from having to read through comments that are pointless. In this case, I would've deleted the comment also.

   Another surefire way to have your comment trashed - post asking why your posts don't get published.

   Each day there could be 10,000 or 20,000 or more users coming to the site and some of those want to read comments to get an insight on the download - and judge how popular it is.

   "Someone's rigged the voting. I have no use for this software, but I'll wait and maybe I'll download it later" is comment trashcan material.

   Posted 13 years ago #
5. 

   fever
   Member

   Don't take it personally?

   How can I not take it personally when my comment is deleted and others are not?

   If you didn't want me here for whatever reason, all you needed to do was say it.

   No matter, Hint taken.

   KMA.

   Posted 13 years ago #
6. 

   GMMan, Hexadecimal Blacksmith
   Blocked

   What BuBBy is saying is moderators have to look at a lot of messages similar to yours. What mods want are constructive criticism. If you read a lot of comments that do come through, you can see them being written by people who have no idea of basic app troubleshooting. However, their comments are one step better than comments by people who haven't even downloaded the program.

   Let's go through each of your statements:
   

   52 thumbs up, and no comments? Hmm. That’s weird.

   
   It's not weird at all. Moderators only check comments a few times a day, and all comments are placed in a moderation queue before being posted to the site. On the other hand, the thumbs system is completely anonymous and unmoderated, so their changes show up immediately. I can discuss some points of the thumbs system if you'd like.

   Speaking of weird, I don’t really get what this program would be good for. Ok, maybe to make a disk label, but what else?

   
   If you looked at past giveaway thumbnails, you'll discover that a lot of them use 3D boxshots. That's the use of the program.

   I’ve been sitting in this office clicking away for years, and never once have I had a need for a 3D image of a box.

   
   That's because you've only been clicking, not making your own programs or products. If you're making a website for your program, you might find use in this product.

   But you wait.

   Tomorrow afternoon, only a few hours after this giveaway is done, someone will call me up and say…”heyyyyyyyy, you know what kind of image I really really need”?

   
   Sarcasm doesn't help here. It only highlights the fact that you're not thinking past your own needs. Also remember that not everyone will need the giveaway being offered everyday. It''s called variety.

   Let me think on this and see what the others say.

   
   I'll say the same as what BuBBy said.

   Don't take it personally?

   How can I not take it personally when my comment is deleted and others are not?

   
   Who says that everyone else's comments are posted? Are spam posted? Are comments by people who have no idea what they're saying posted? Are posts that comprise of random letters squashed together posted? You haven't seen the moderation queue, so you can't accurately state that.

   If you didn't want me here for whatever reason, all you needed to do was say it.

   No matter, Hint taken.

   
   No one said that they didn't want you here. You overvalue your opinion and are easily offended. Remember that comments on the main GOTD site are moderated, so they're subject to scrutiny. If a mod determines that what you say doesn't contribute to the usefulness of the comments section, he has the right to discard it.

   I'd say more, but my keyboard is arranged in an odd way in relationship to my monitor and it doesn't make it easy for me to type.

   Posted 13 years ago #
7. 

   Pookie
   Member

   Nicely written GMMan.

   Posted 13 years ago #
8. 

   Robert
   StrayCat

   I don't think we should be pampering someone who uses KMA...
   Anyway, BuBBy's comment covered it all.

   Posted 13 years ago #
9. 

   notblocklox
   retired

   Oh, thanks Robert, didn't notice it. Had to google it - now my English skills are much better. ;)

   @ fever: I cancel my "welcome".

   Posted 13 years ago #
10. 

    goodgotd
    Member

    FWIW, since the hoo-rah wound up about blocking ads and in-the-way elements on the site I found out the hard way (I use NoScript and normally only allow the base giveawayoftheday.com site permission to run) that you also have to enable 208.94.233.132 or your comments just... vanish. Never show up as 'waiting for moderation' or anything else. Though if you try to post the same thing the site tells you it's a dupe. strange, but true.

    So there might be a problem with permissions- and the mods never see it.

    I'm not going to say other reasons may apply- but that one caught me by surprise.

    YMMV.

    Posted 13 years ago #
11. 

    notblocklox
    retired

    Goody, do you mean the linkinformer.js?
    I have disabled that, and it happened, that my comments vanished, but not every time.

    Posted 13 years ago #
12. 

    goodgotd
    Member

    NoScript doesn't detail what scripts it blocks, just which domains it allows to operate. it blocks by source rather than specific software.

    and it pops up as that IP address, no domain name associated with it. When I make comments anymore I temporarily allow it, then when I leave the site it's blocked again.

    Google.com, googleadservices.com, addthis.com, dt00.net, doclix.com, informer.com, and quantserve.com all appear on my 'recently blocked sites' list. I haven't got this copy of firefox fully loaded with add-ons, so I don't have the developer tools handy.

    googlesyndication.com, google-analytics.com, and 208.94.233.132 appear in the list that I can temporarily or permanently allow. I suppose I could have done a whois, but since I rarely comment I haven't bothered.

    Posted 13 years ago #
13. 

    GMMan, Hexadecimal Blacksmith
    Blocked

    <sigh> Are you serious? Maybe that's where all my comments are going! But really, comments on WordPress shouldn't depend on something from Informer to get posted. WordPress itself is more than capable of handling comments without external scripts of uncertain origins.

    Posted 13 years ago #
14. 

    BuBBy
    Teh adnim

    please don't resurrect old discussions and take them off topic.

    Posted 13 years ago #

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