TK, thank you. I discovered that the mde.lkeys file had been added to both folders when I registered. Thanks also to Macrorit and GOTD.

Kalvin, Perhaps you should brush up on your spelling and grammar. Your views may then be more respected!

TK, are your directed insults supposed to make me apologize or feel safe in installing this program?

Why are you so worried about my opinions and bashing me?

because I choose not to install a program ?

Personal insults don't convince anyone to install anything.

I'm not here to gloat about my skills or question yours or to bash anyone.

I'm simply pointing out some facts.

You are claiming that commercially available software doesn't have the features that this unknown software does. I find that amazingly difficult to believe.

My apologies for not choosing to take the bait. For not installing software that I've never heard of, OR any systems admin I've spoken to.

I'm sure you'll try and convince others by hurling more insults and attacks, as you've already done.

Also nobody uses (jbod) aka Just A Bunch Of Drives raid level as it is garbage. Therefore they wouldn't need to move it's partitions, I'm sure a self proclaimed super genius like you knew that. After all I'm a "consumer level "person according to you.

If others want to install everything because it's a free giveaway, that's thier choice. I'll feel free to express my opinion and the facts regarding software any time I please.

Please continue to bully and harass as you please, it helps your argument sooooo much.

Gung Hai Fa Choi

Kalvin,

You should brush up on your manners, and stop spewing venom at TK just because he dared to correct your statement.
How funny when you said "I'm not here to .....bash anyone".
Yet, your whole post consists of bashing and negative smart-aleck remarks. And you do not stop at that. In addition, you are throwing MULTIPLE personal insults at TK, and that is just because you got offended by the fact that he pointed out your incorrect claim in your original post.
Grow up, kid.

TK, G-Parted supports TRIM on SSD's.
G-Parted also supports hardware RAID, motherboard BIOS RAID, and Linux software RAID.
Does Macrorit support all Windows software RAID configurations? I'm not seeing info about that.

Lewis Murray,

Exactly , does nothing more and suspiciously claims to be a " server edition or server something"

TK,

Its always faster and safer to manipulate your partitions with drive offline ie not booted into Windows. The Linux boot CD partition tools exist for that reason. 2 decades ago I used a Windows based popular repartitioning tool, took forever and was very dicey on a 20gb her.

Last month I reparitioned 2 different 1TB drives in mere minutes .

Installers and users use your own judgement, but I would be cautious, who are these guys?

What content do better than the boot to dos mode or Linux based established and low cost or free tools ?

It's like android and iOS app stores, there are usually many many apps that claim to do similar things, but only a few are established and have a track record of being honest, safe , stable.

TK, utter nonsense, far more compatible with ntfs

I work with it all the time using known tools that all the other people use .

There is no incompatibility of the existing established tools with NTFS

Are you confusing yourself and thinking efat???

TK, clearly you've not uses established tools.

They don't work under Windows. They don't work on partitions that are being used.

The drive is safer and can be reparitioned or reorganised

**faster
**safer

And drive systems like fat32, efat, NTFS, all changed and manipulated .

Working on a live filesystem is foolhardy at best.

Like I said before you do what you want . Since you know more than anyone else who's pointed these things put , same goes for your alter ego.

I'm not sure why you guys are promoting this product or what's in it for you to coerce us into installing it. Those that do, do.

Those with real world experience already have the established tools and they are either free or low cost.

Simply put I don't see the benefit of this product or the point.

I've installed some great software from this site and promote it to many many people.

Today's software, offers no benefit. Not even to those who don't have a partition management software or drive mgmt software.

Likely it will cause damage, rather than "handle ntfs better"

consuella,

A new Windows 10 1809 install will by default create a boot partition, a small 16MB partition, a system or Windows partition, & a Recovery partition.

The recovery partition is used for resetting or restoring Windows, can be deleted if you use image backups & don't want to ever use the reset or recovery options, and you may wind up with an extra recovery partition after upgrading win10 versions.

The boot partition, the one that's FAT32, is currently 100MB after a new win10 install, but in the past could be 300MB or so. It's necessary for devices with the BIOS set to UEFI mode, since that mode cannot, will not find Windows boot files anywhere besides on a FAT32 partition.

The reserved partition size could also vary historically, depending on which version of win10 was originally installed. It can store GPT-related info, and stored the Windows files necessary for BitLocker etc. You can get rid of it, but at 128MB, it's not worth bothering with.

consuella, YES!
do not delete those 3 small partition :)

consuella, YES ! It's system files.

consuella, 1 of those Partitions will be labelled "System & Boot".
If you delete that, goodbye computer login.

alexu,
Thank you for your kind advice. Very much appreciated.

Cheers,

consuella

Othello86,
Thank you very much for your advice. I am going to heed your warning and will not touch that partition.

Cheers,

consuella

TK,

Thank you so much for your time and very helpful advice.
It is from such super knowledgeable people like you that many of us get some great advice here and learn new things in our quest to become better educated in using various computing tools.

Thanks again TK.

Best Regards,

consuella

mike,

Thank you so much for your time and very helpful advice.
It is from such very knowledgeable people like you that many of us get some great advice here and learn new things and become better educated in using our computers.

Thanks again.

Best Regards,

consuella

HawaiiTex,

"Can this software safely move apps from the overloaded C"

No. There are a few apps that say that they can do this but IMHO it's going to be hit or miss, at best. Software often adds files/folders to ProgramData &/or the User files, & references those locations in the registry, & sometimes in the app's code itself. What you have to do is uninstall the software, then try to reinstall it on the drive partition you want -- some, relative few apps will not let you choose the destination folder, which is why I say "try to reinstall where you want."

"Would this improve performance on C:?"

Only if C:\ does not have enough free space for Windows to operate properly. FWIW in win10 you can open Task Mgr., & the detailed view will show you the amount of disk activity -- in win7-8 you can find 3rd party apps that do much the same. If you find that when your device seems slow, the disk activity is maxed out, then a faster drive, either conventional or ideally SSD will help. If the disk activity is fairly low, say 10-20%, it might still help but not that much.

TK,

Just a quick note: you can now move the location of win10's store apps in Settings, though individual 3rd party apps may not always like it. You can also move several of the user folders, e.g. MyDocs.

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[ Tom ], yes, just like using kitchen knives can put your health at risk if you don't know how to handle kitchen knives.

These things are not dangerous or malicious in and of themselves, but mishandled, the each have no way of disciplining their handler, no way of way of saying "no, don't do that" to whatever the user directs them to do.
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Marc Goldberg, I suppose you could have FAT32 and NTFS partitions on the same disk but I can't quite see why you would want to retain FAT32. You can convert everything to NTFS then create as many partitions you want. Instructions abound
see https://support.office.com/en-us/article/convert-a-fat-or-fat32-drive-to-ntfs-fa1d020b-afbc-466f-8454-6b31fbe89f7a.
Trust this helps

Marc Goldberg,

No reason why not, unless the external drive you're talking about is a USB stick -- then it gets tricky because Windows won't normally recognize more than one partition.

You'll have to shrink the existing FAT32 partition, or delete it & create a new one, leaving the amount of unallocated space you want to use for the NTFS partition. Then just create the new partition in that unallocated space, and format it NTFS.

D Murphy, thanks. I have an external 2TB FAT32 drive that's almost half full and I want to put some large files and a drive image on it (FAT won't take very large files). I thought if I could shrink the FAT and partition half of it as NTFS, I could get everything on that and then change the FAT to NTFS. Convoluted solution to not having another large external drive.

mike, thanks. this is the feedback that seems to solve the problem. I'll download product and try. I am curious, why is a stick or flashdrive different from a physically larger external usb drive.

TK, thanks. Interesting about SDcard visibility. As with Mike's comment about stickcards, I'm curious what the sources of these differences are if they're all USB

Karen Stavert,

Not sure what you mean by join drives... If you mean merge partitions, which take the contents of one partition and puts it in a folder on a 2nd partition, then yes. If you mean something like Windows Storage Spaces or RAID JBOD, where you see one pool of storage space, you wouldn't use partitioning software for that.

,
[ Karen Stavert ],

Windows allows attaching a second drive as a subdirectory of an existing drive, effectively making both spaces available under the first drive's volume.

The challenge is when folks already have data they want to keep on each drive, but don't have a backup when they play with partition tools -- "oops, how did it go blank?".

Try a test with two old cheap small drives until you find what you think will work for you, and hope it survives if either fails or become separated.

However, larger drives are cheaper than retyping and rephotographing and rerecording lost data.
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Karen Stavert,
Sounds like a simple job for this or any other partition manager.

Al, anything that someone knows HOW to do is
simple...

I need the 'how to' please...

Karen, If you are on windows 10 you can do it manually. Be careful to chose the correct partitions or you will lose files. Off the top of my head it goes like this. Back up the files you want to keep in any of the partition you want to change. In file manager right click on This PC and select manage (as administrator). Then select Disk management. Click right on a partition you don't want and select delete Volume and agree to delete it. Then click right on the partition you want to enlarge and select Extend Volume and agree to enlarge it. Replace the files you backed up. Job Jobbed

D Murphy, Oh yes I expect a partition management program would do it quicker but I never use them myself.

Karen,
it would help us help you if we knew what OS you're running. I'm assuming it's Win 10. Also, you have free space in at least one of the other 2 partitons, so you can shrink the one adjacent to the system partition, right? Otherwise you need a larger hdd.

The basic functionality is built into the OS and doesn't require additional software. Right click on the Windows icon (the one you normally left click to open the menu containing all your programs). In the menu that pops up, left click "Disk management". In the window that pops up, in the lower half, to the right of "Disk 0", find the partiton immediately to the right of your C drive. Right click that partiton and left click "Shrink volume". Choose by how much you want to shrink it (no more than the free space available), click any OK and/or Apply buttons. Then right click the C partiton and left click "Extend volume". Confirm/apply any changes.

If you need more space, you may 1) move data from the 2nd partiton to the 3rd and do the above or 2) merge the 2nd and 3rd partitons to combine their free spaces and do the above.
The latter requires a program. This one should help in theory, but too many users report too many problems with it. I have used Paragon Partition Manager and EaseUS Partiton Manager, both given away here in the past. The latter seems to have a free version. Search online. No program will allow you to destroy any data during the resize (you would have to delete the whole 2nd partiton, which you can do with the functionality built into the OS, and then add the free space to C). I think it is also more or less possible to find this "How to" online , but I hope my 2 cents help you.

D Murphy, More - Don't select your working C: drive partition or your boot partition which will usually be on the same drive or its PC goodbye

Karen Stavert,

If I understand correctly you've got the system partition with Windows on it as drive C:, & 2 other partitions D: & E:. You want to make C: larger. Since the data on D: & E: don't matter, simply delete one or both partitions, then enlarge C: to take up the now empty, unallocated space. Or you can enlarge C: to take up most, but not all of that space, creating a new partition, or 2, using the remaining space.

Karen,
Your question was 'Will this software help me to do that?'. SO I answered. I have not used this particular program and as with any program, it will provide instructions on its use. It is likely a simple matter of grabbing a bar and pulling it over into an adjacent partition. Regardless, I am sure it can do what you want and you need merely look at it and follow the basic user instructions. It WILL be simple!

Karen Stavert, Having seen other replies I would like to point out that most shop bought PCs have 3 partitions on the internal hard drive. These being your C: drive partition; your boot up partition and a recovery partition. I would not expect the boot partition or the recovery partition to be visible in the file manager or have any substantial amount of free space and IMO it would be a bad idea to change them.

Rubycat,

The short answer is yes. The long answer is there might be issues that make this complicated... Your device's BIOS may be limited to UEFI, or have the capability to use UEFI or Legacy [CSM] boot methods. UEFI needs Windows EFI boot files to be on a FAT32 partition that's hidden & restricted by default, while the disk itself can be MBR or GPT. Legacy requires Windows legacy boot files that can be pretty much anywhere, but if your device BIOS detects a GPT disk, it may switch to UEFI mode automatically.

So, if you convert the drive from GPT to MBR, you're not really changing the way your device boots. To do that you have to add the legacy boot files [EasyBCD or BCDBoot], then switch the BIOS over to Legacy [CSM] mode. Since you say your main issue is with recovery, I assume your problems are getting a USB stick/drive to boot. The easy, & more correct solution might be to simply create UEFI compatible bootable USB sticks/drives. If the software you're using cannot create a UEFI bootable USB stick that works, see if it will create a ISO, or create a DVD & make an ISO from that, then use the free rufus to put it on a bootable USB stick/drive.

MH,

IMHO that's just boilerplate text. The portable version really isn't, strictly speaking, BTW. The app adds it's drivers, whether you're running the portable version or installing it from the setup file. Most partitioning apps add drivers -- the only exception I'm aware of is Partition Guru, a past GOTD.

M. H.,
https://macrorit.com/partition-magic-manager/server-edition.html

M. H.,

Windows Server partitioning software works on Windows Servers. Typical partitioning software does not. Server software usually costs several times more than the consumer (non-server) version of the same software.

Hi Oreguy,
Got it.
But what about the other way around?
Will it work on normal PCs?

Katalin,
I uninstalled Macrorit Partition Expert Pro and then installed Macrorit Partition Expert Server 5.3.7.
It looks ok.
Windows 10 home 64 bits.

Thanks to all for feedback!