mikiem2
Moderator
thurrott[.]com/windows/windows-10/109196/microsoft-begins-rolling-creators-update-today
"Microsoft Begins Rolling Out the Creators Update Today"
thurrott[.]com/windows/windows-10/109077/windows-10-creators-update-review
"Windows 10 Creators Update Review"
thurrott[.]com/windows/windows-10/109093/fact-check-microsofts-creators-update-introduction-video
"Fact Check: Microsoft’s Creators Update Introduction Video"
Best of luck if you're running 10. :)
Tiffany
Member
All good. My trouble was my Malwarebytes not letting Windows Defender to stay on. Upon visiting Malwarebytes Community forum there was an answer and it was just a matter of updating to the very latest version of Malwareybytes.
As for the Creators Update.....meh......will take a bit of getting use to and I may find something I don't like later. Restarting screen was very bright. There has to be a solution somewhere.
Oh and the Windows Defender icon in the task bar takes way too long to load. I am about to do a Defrag to see if that sorts it.
mikiem2
Moderator
Back a year or two ago [maybe even 3?], one of the security software companies wrote somewhere that Microsoft requested that all security apps delay starting up when Windows 10 started. And with 1703 Defender ties much more into any 3rd party security apps that are installed, e.g. now there's the Defender shield icon in the notification area of the taskbar, in addition to the icon for something like McAfee or Bitdefender etc.
So there might not be a cure for Defender taking a while to fully start, though I wish you luck, and don't mean to sound pessimistic. :)
When I boot into my main Windows 10 install the delay's terrible. Since on top of more normal delays I know that Bitdefender is going to want to check for updates very 1st thing, and that pretty much brings stuff to a halt, I just walk away from this PC for a bit, e.g. make a cup of coffee, load the dishwasher, whatever.
[I'm sure subconsciously that's one reason I spend most of my time in Windows 7.]
Philipgreenwood
Member
I have now been playing or learning- I put Creater Win10 pro x 64 on today. I did a system restore point couple days ago; as suggested. I am early for it- I was trying to be early for it (On purpose) by pressing "Check for updates" quite a few times for 2 days. It told me last night it was coming and I got a screen with pivacy questions (Similar to first install of win10), to begin with. Then it said I had time to prepare (I had already System Rest); it gave me evening/night. Even a bit in Morn, Then asked if I was ready (Long time), good time for me so as I left for other things I clicked Restart. Maybe 1 hour 20mins and at least 2 restarts(On it own)later; I pressed my startup pin- one more restart, maybe 10 mins. Now its "Creator Edition". I followed some of the tutorials to learn stuff- similar to last big Win10 update. My Desktop or PC was good . Not screwdup. Later I pressed a few wrong buttons myself (While learning or tutorials) to mess things up; They were fixed then by me. One of the other preps I will say (And I am no Expert) is to uninstall any extra Antivirus you have. With my Creator PC now I am going with Windows Defender- no conflicts(there is a new app (Or way) yu can go with here if yu like as mentioned). Its new and I say good. That was my last 2 updates before getting the big Creator Update. If you don't want to uninstall- check where on your PC they are and which ones (I had Malwarebytes-and a GOTHD freebee from past days); before and after big Creator Update. So my experience for last 3 days has been good- Creator Win10 Update good.
Philipgreenwood
Member
..Tutorials were about productivity-Mail-and Safety; or just new PC you have now. Although my old pc was here as well. All desktop icons, all old was good. I could still use MY MyPlayCity games, my other icons- I believe my Edge bookmarks were already there- but I pressed Import before I knew this fact. Check this first (Before tutorial). I checked out the Focus- for my outlook e-mal; Learning again- how to show or not Other. .The big time amount I spent was to go through the "Store"(Microsoft/Win). I wanted to for a chance to find new Games or Apps to put on my PC- everything here worked great. I found 5 or 6 to download.. Be careful what yu first choose to open your old pictures with. I went with the new Paint 3 D so that I could edit or have fun with my pic's; But now all my pic stuff is opened with that- and that is not good for amateur computer guy I am. Still I am not mad at Update- it was my mistake. How do I get my Opens with.. Button back again. I will try my steam to see if it works- It will. I will use my Computer for a few days and let all know. How it is going. So far Update is Good..!!
delenn13
Dedicated Gamer
Hey Philip, I don't use win 10 but I found this for you. Hope it helps...
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/quickly-fix-windows-file-type-associations/
Tiffany
Member
mikiem2
I use to have Bitdefender. Was the best for a while then Windows 10 came and I had nothing but trouble with it. Did a lot of research and everything pointed to WD and Malwarebytes being all you should need. I was a bit iffy about it but found that if I used those two along with Adware Cleaner from Malwarebytes I have a pretty sane computer. Well for me it is. I also use Hitman Pro Free when I think there is something funny going on. Used it once and removed a few crap myself and its been wonderful since.
mikiem2
Moderator
Very glad it worked so well Phillip. I've got Bitdefender with a couple of our 10 installs... one I needed to update versions anyway, so I uninstalled 1st, installed the newer version after. The other I just let it alone and it seems to have survived the process of upgrading to 1703. McAfee seems to have survived the upgrade on another device too, so **maybe** Microsoft fixed the problems that used to be common if you didn't uninstall 1st.
After the upgrade there should be a C:\Windows.old\ folder. In it there should be Program Files & Program Files (x86) folders -- any apps that didn't make it should be in those two folders, though there will also be older versions of folders Windows uses too. If you open File Explorer [Windows Explorer], right-click on the C: drive, & select Properties, you'll see a button on the lower right called Disk Cleanup. Click that, & when it gives you a dialog/info box, click the button for system files. Once that dialog box pops up again, check the boxes for stuff to get rid of, e.g. your old copy of Windows. Once it's running you'll get one message box to click OK. You should be able to regain 20-30GB. [It's also not a bad idea to run Disk Cleanup after regular Windows Updates. April's didn't amount to much, but in the past I've regained over 1GB.]
You mentioned Edge... Be Careful. They recently had a Pwn2Own, & Edge was declared afterwards by some security folks to be the least secure browser you can use.
wikipedia[.]org/wiki/Pwn2Own
While I'm going to seem to blast one of their articles in another post, Windows Central often has articles featuring Windows 10 games from the store.
windowscentral[.]com/
I use to have Bitdefender. Was the best for a while then Windows 10 came and I had nothing but trouble with it. Did a lot of research and everything pointed to WD and Malwarebytes being all you should need. I was a bit iffy about it but found that if I used those two along with Adware Cleaner from Malwarebytes I have a pretty sane computer. Well for me it is. I also use Hitman Pro Free when I think there is something funny going on. Used it once and removed a few crap myself and its been wonderful since.
Cool!
We used to run McAfee, frankly because I got it so cheap from Dell Home [like $4], but then Intel bought them, & suddenly it wouldn't work on our AMD PCs. I've started using it again, also again because I got it cheap [sigh], but it seems lighter weight on things like the miniPC, which is really low power, and when I had to upgrade versions of Bitdefender it broke VirtualBox in win7, so I'm running it here too. Haven't had problems with Bitdefender in 10, but Windows Defender used to give me fits on a couple of copies of 10, though they seem to have that fixed finally. Defender also scored Quite a bit better than last time on the new av-test[.]org tests.
mikiem2
Moderator
Oops -- forgot to mention Philip, the one feature Windows 10 1703 adds that has some gamers excited is game mode. You'll find that Game Mode has been added to your choices when you open Settings, & it's turned on by default. When you have a game full-screen, press the Windows key + G on your keyboard to bring up the Game Bar. Then click the gear icon to turn it on for that game, If/When Necessary -- Windows might already have turned it on if it recognized that game.
With 10 there's a lot of stuff going on in the background that you don't see unless you've got something like Task Mgr. or Process Explorer running. In Game Mode lot of those background processes get turned off. It's not supposed to provide a Huge boost, but it helps. If you try it, let us know what you think. :)
Philipgreenwood
Member
..TY mikiem, and all. So the gamer mode isn't just for Recording, cool.
I used update assistant to put Creator on another Win10 pro x 64 machine I have. My 2 PC's are old and each only a little different. It worked well on this second machine too. I did not spend the time yet at Micros Store; for second Desktop. What I did notice this morning is that I have to develop a NEW PROCEDURE For Downloading GGOTD **. Try one I hit open- then closed out EdgeBro; the folder didn't work. Try Two I Extrated all and Extracted; Then closed out my windows; The folders were empty, not working.. For me anyway- you have to leave your windows open (Staying connected to GOTD)til farther along in process of putting the game giveaway on PC. I still later on followed Whiterabbits procedure- delete the 3 extra icons, can delete in download folder etc...Not really that big a deal.
..Creator Edition has a feature of setting Tabs aside. Even when loads of windows open you can fast check which file or whatever is in each. Handy for some I guess. Me I was usually the type person who closed them out. If I needed again later I could use bookmarks or other ways to go there. Again not a huge deal.
..I am still OK with the Win Upgrade. Have a nice day all. !! and also HAPPY Easter..!!
Philipgreenwood
Member
..I may have run into a win10 Creater UpDate problem (Or Not them -Just my own problem). So before you update- sign in to any old e-mals You have, or get rid of them if they are not used any longer. I did not sign in often enough to my second e-mal account(Because its very old) and I don't use it now I did 3 years ago. Now after Update I can't get in to my old account, now maybe I was hacked; and its not the fact that it seems(See me as ) to e-mal as a new computer. I have to go through the account recovery process to get my e-mal. The second Verification- have to remember my answers to secret Question, and other questions. It wants who I last e-malled- This one is tricky because the answer is nodody for months and months- there is no recent ones.. Needless to say I am Frustrated. Was I Hacked? Or is it just verification, or Security? So Update all your e-mal before you win10 Creater Update. Have a nice day all...Raining for me next 4 days..
mikiem2
Moderator
Something else new for you to try Philip -- Spatial Sound.
Doing a quick search on Google, there really are quite a few references, and often contradictory comments -- you'll have to try it out for yourself and see what you think.
What it does is simulate listening to surround sound with surround sound speakers, & there are 2 main options, Windows 10 Sonic & Dolby Atmos -- Sonic is free but Atmos costs $15 after a 30 day trial. The Windows dialogs say Headphones, but it's supposed to work with speakers too. But like I said, comments are all over the place, with some people loving it, & others seeing no difference at all. I didn't find any really good guides, but this page seems less confusing...
pureinfotech[.]com/setup-spatial-sound-dolby-atmos-windows-10/
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