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Rejected: 74% of organizations have no plans to deploy Windows 8
and the new, touch-centric user interface is a driving factor in the decision.
73.7 percent of respondents say their organizations have no plans to deploy Windows 8, with 23.8 percent reporting that they will skip the OS altogether. By comparison, a 2009 ScriptLogic survey (PDF) found that 59.3 percent of 1,100 respondents had no current plans to deploy Windows 7.
mikiem2
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"Its Look like That Windows 8 is also a flop like windows vista. "
IMHO too soon to say...
Vista wasn't/isn't all that bad once they got everything fixed [after all the SPs & hotfixes] & hardware drivers became available. Took a loooong time -- Creative only got the drivers mostly right when people were running the 1st downloads of win7 -- but the underpinnings of Vista power win7 so it can most often do the job [my wife's PC boots Vista & win7, & she swears the same games run faster on Vista]. But like XP when it 1st came out, lots of people didn't like Vista -- unlike XP, for the most part they never came around. Install win8, add a Start Menu [several available free & paid] & ignore the touchscreen interface -- you've got win7 with better memory mgmt but without some of win7's eye candy. It's conceivable Nvidia for example gets their graphics drivers tweaked for win8, & some popular games could get tweaks/mods that make them run better or with new features on 8 -- in that case win8 might really take off. Or not.
I'm not sure that the business desktop market was what Microsoft was trying to capture with Win8 - I'd suggest they are trying to have something available so they don't get completely left behind in the iOS / Android tablet markets (if that hasn't already happened). Seeing the growth in iPad & Android devices and knowing that your software isn't running on it, would be hurting Microsoft, and Win8 is their first step into that market.
Anonymous
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Microsoft keeps Window 7 for businesses you can buy till win 9 come out
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/06/07/win8_enterprise_yesno/
Windows 8: Not even Microsoft thinks businesses will use it
An entire enterprise cycle binned in Metro madness
Analysis Like Thelma and Louise, executives at Microsoft's Windows division have no doubts about which direction they want to point the car. It's pedal to the floor, and over the cliff as fast as they can drive.
"This will end same as Vista. Nobody will want this. Nobody will want to have their PC look like a mobile phone which nobody wants,"
it be fix with Windows 9
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More than half of consumers haven't heard of Windows 8
The Associated Press (AP) recently performed a 1,200 respondent telephone survey on the popularity of Windows 8. Survey results showed that 52 percent of those surveyed never heard of Windows 8. Furthermore, of those that have heard of Microsoft's new operating system, 61 percent said that they had little interest in Windows 8.
According to the survey, only 35 percent of respondents said they thought Windows 8 would be an improvement over previous incarnations of Microsoft's OS. The general consensus from respondents was that Windows 8 was a radical change to Windows, and that change was a bad thing.
ChrisS
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Windows 8 may be the biggest marketing failure since the Segway. As Bubby said, Win8 is really intended for the "handheld" market. The touch interface is mostly useless on laptops and desktops due to the sparsity of hardware and the absolute vacuum of software. If you recall, MS couldn't even properly debut their tablet because the MS software menus went nowhere.
But, as Mikiem mentioned, once you get past all of the "touch" components, Win8 is really just a somewhat stripped down Win7 version with better memory management. They'd have been better off calling it "Windows7 Portable" than "Windows8" but who would upgrade to a stripped down version of their O/S? Microsoft is hoping millions will do so.
mikiem2
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I think *maybe* part of the *Why* to Microsoft's development & marketing of win8 has to do with the stock market & their investors... the market hot shots rarely care about how good a product or service really is. The push of win8 may be intended to move the market more than the industry, or at least keep Microsoft's stock prices from dropping, & that stock price is what determines how much the Microsoft folks are worth, how much they get in bonuses at the end of the year.
Another thought is maybe Microsoft's pulling another Bing? Microsoft's spent billions trying to match Google, & hasn't so far, yet they continue trying -- maybe they figure every ounce of market share they take from Google is worth [more than?] its weight in gold.
ChrisS
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the market hot shots rarely care about how good a product or service really is
I think the problem is the "my customers are the past, your customers are my future" mentality that drives decisions. I have no doubt that MS wants Win8 to be a success. The problem is that they appear to have devalued Win7, thus giving their existing customers the proverbial finger, in order to compete in a new market.
You see that mentality with anti-virus software - get a discount for switching from a competitor but pay full price is you're a current user. The same applies with changes to "Productivity Suites"... the new version is "more intuitive, easier to use, etc". And it may be for new users but the changes mean a massive loss in productivity for current users. And let's not forget Vista... if you were a new user then Vista was a viable choice. If you were an existing customer then you got to replace all your peripherals, and possibly software, if you upgraded.
With Win8, MS is channeling their inner Marie Antoinette by saying "our future is phones and tablets, let the PC and laptop users load Linux". The greatest threat to a continuing MS dominance appears to be MS.
Anonymous
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http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/10/16/why-can-ignore-windows-8/
Why you can ignore Windows 8
Microsoft also is trying to use scare tactics to keep enterprise customers from straying from the upgrade path. Many businesses have clung to the old Windows XP in an attempt to save money, for example. So Microsoft has said it will end support for Windows XP in April 2014. But companies shouldn't be frightened, because in today's rapidly changing computing environment, that's like saying you're going to pull the plug 100 years from now.
By April of next year so much will have changed that Windows may not be relevant at all by then.
For those who still think Microsoft's launch this month is an earth-shattering event, think of the issue by considering a single question: What excites you more, the coming Apple iPad mini announcement or the release of Windows 8?
Furthermore, the desktop market is dying, so why bother upgrading?
Laptop users are also unlikely to change. To use Windows 8's touch tiles, one will have to buy a new system. I can hear them now: "We already have a portable touch screen system. It's called an iPad (or Kindle Fire or Android tablet)." In fact, this year for the first time tablet sales have surpassed laptop sales. And, let's face it: Those ultra books have been a complete flop.
Maybe the biggest argument against a major OS upgrade is that we now live in a world of free applications and cheap apps. No one expects to wait three years for a new operating system; today Android users are demanding monthly upgrades on their phones.
http://www.foxnews.com/topics/tech/windows-8.htm
Where do I click again? A Windows 8 guide for the perplexed
If you're using a mouse in Metro, you right-click anywhere on the screen to reveal the tabs. Of course, this means right-clicking no longer does any of things it can be used for in previous versions of Windows, such as letting you open a link in a new tab.
mikiem2
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Win8 doesn't bother me [doesn't excite me either] because I'm used to trying to make software do what I want -- I guess that comes partly from the old days when software did much less & was anything but user friendly -- partly from a lifelong habit of using whatever was lying around, fixing &/or making things from odds & ends rather than expecting to find the perfect solution on a store shelf. When the 1st win8 preview came out I promptly turned off Metro, & when MS fixed it so that you couldn't, ignored the touchscreen interface as best I could. It was a Huge reality check [and I'm ashamed to say a Huge source of entertainment] when my son 1st laid his hands on win8 over the weekend, installing the win8 Enterprise trial.
I hadn't paid a lot of attention to how often win8 works illogically -- I just accept such stuff as stupid design & get on with it -- but it really & truly drove my son nuts. And he wasn't trying to use the touchscreen interface, nor had he gotten around to missing the Start Menu yet. It's making me reconsider much of everything I thought about the new OS.
Now my son may get used to it, may even turn out to be a very big fan of win8 once he puts his initial shocks [& there were Many] behind him -- or I may find he did a quick format last night, getting rid of every trace. I have no idea how many people there are out there that will have an identical reaction [or worse] the 1st time they introduce themselves to win8. I've no idea how many of those people will be able to leave their 1st impressions behind, figuring out how to live with win8 on their own terms. But I can say now that I better appreciate how some people can truly loath this latest version from Microsoft. In my son's case it wasn't lack of knowledge, nor fear of something new &/or the unknown, but more his reaction to a cascade of bad [perhaps even stupid] decisions that were made designing win8. From now on when someone says they hate Microsoft's newest, I'll take them at their word.
So if you're thinking about running win8, IMHO leave youself a way out, making sure you can go back to your old Windows version as easily & quickly as possible. You can try it in a VM or try it alongside the Windows you use now without compromising what you already have. If you decide to upgrade the Windows you have now without trying win8 1st, at least create a full disk image backup, making sure you know how to restore it. I realize not everyone will react to win8 the same way as my son did -- I didn't -- but I can't imagine what it would be like to go through that & not have an easy way out.
Anonymous
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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2411443,00.asp
Windows 8 was designed to solve this problem. It wasn't designed for laptops and desktops, it was designed for phones and tablets. The Metro, Modern, or whatever you want to called the active tiled interface, was taken directly from the Windows Phone. Windows 8 wasn't made for your current laptop; it was designed for the weird hybrid thing that you are going to buy next.
Microsoft is soft-selling this transition because it doesn't want to spook conventional users. Indeed, executives will tell you this was all by design.
Anonymous
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Windows 8: A Bridge Too Far For Enterprises?
Windows 8 may end up marking the moment when people stopped caring about PC operating systems.
https://www.informationweek.com/software/windows8/windows-8-are-pc-people-out-of-touch/240009279
Windows 8: Are PC People Out Of Touch?
Keyboard and mouse users have little reason to celebrate when Microsoft's new OS rolls out. Does that make me a dinosaur?
Windows 8 Release Preview say the OS "works great on the same hardware that powers Windows 7." True enough, but a few bullet points down you'll find this note: "To use touch, you need a tablet or a monitor that supports multi-touch."
What about folks more inclined to use a touchpad than a touchscreen? (And what about a mouse? They still make those, right?) I'm not old enough to be a dinosaur, am I?
"Windows 8 is designed for tablets and smartphones. Makes no sense for a desktop PC to behave like that, sticking with Windows 7 which I am very satisfied with," Me 2 ):-
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