Not having it compatible with Gmail is like having a program touted as "EverDesk is the first and only fully-featured spreadsheet client on the market" * not compatible with Excel. REALLY???

Thank you GOTD

Thank you Giovanni

I always check GOTD & need to read Giovanni Post to complete the image

thank you all GOTD users for help & share

OK I'm back with test results: It installed with no problems. I use Gmail exclusively at this time but have 4 separate accounts for different purposes. I Followed the GAOTD Readme flle directions and program installed without a problem onWin7HomePremium. Be sure you install program first, THEN, goto the URL in the GAOTD README file. This will take you to the registration page. Be sure to enter the 'promo code' in the GAOTD Readme file. best to cut&paste. Program installed registered to me. NO Problem. After a quick setup and familiarization I think the program is useful. The layout and functions take some getting use too, and fonts are a little small; however, I will likely keep it. But I must say I learned a lot from everyones suggestions for alternatives and setting up Gmail to do things I have never bothered to do or investigate. ONce again an interesting day at GAOTD.

Doesn't anyone read EULA's anymore? I cheat, I use EULAlyzer, which searches for "interesting words." This program is FULL of the bad stuff!! his is a very concerning quote:
"3. Various statistical data may be used for commercial purposes, including without limitation, for advertising, targeted advertising, marketing, co-registration to other services, promotional or any other activity, subject to the provisions herein."

Eulalyzer gave this sentence its worst rating. I have never and will never install such a program on my machine. Notice how broad this is;
"including without limitation, for advertising, targeted advertising, marketing, co-registration to other services, promotional or any other activity,"

NEVER install anything without reading (or searching with a software program) the EULA!!!!

If you need to backup GMail to local storage. Check out this freeware.
GMail Backup 0.107

http://www.techspot.com/downloads/5153-gmail-backup.html

Normally you do not need to do so, as Google generously gives you massive disk space free. Only done as precaution against rare crash of Google's servers; and then only if Google cannot restore 100% afterwards.

You can send it to any Windows directory of your choice in your hard disk.
You can restore your GMail from the backup.

The email messages will be automatically backed up and sorted under Year folder > Month folder.

You can easily view the backed up .eml extension files using Outlook Express msimn.exe.

It may be a good program, but this GOTD is terrible - I have tried to install three times, including downloading the "fixed" version which was posted late in the day. I can install, but "your license is not valid for the standard edition". I can do a trial edition, but I could have done that anyway. Not a good impression for the product.

(Down vote this now, but it needs to be said.) WOW! Thank you Everdesk for your itemized reply!!! I didn't vote earlier as I didn't download & test today's offer. I have not given you a thumbs up SOLELY due to your feedback. More developers need to be doing this on GOTD. Kudos!

Glad I checked back on the comments section for this one today. Now that I found out it does support basic Gmail accounts I will give it a try.
Thanks to everyone on all your suggestions and solutions. GAOTD is a great service and I learn a lot even if the specific offer is not of interest to me. The comments are insightful and the 'comment-ers' are passionate about what they have to say. Will report back on use of program after giving it a try.

RE #21. One nice feature I use PopPeeper for: via IMAP you can watch a single Gmail map for new mail. This is handy if you have installed a filter to direct incoming mail that you do not want to see in the INBOX to a folder, but still want to watch incoming mail to that folder.

You just define accounts for each folder you want to follow in this way. For a few bucks PopPeeper will give you the option of handling all mail sent from each account. Everything is stored in standard eml format.

sorry, re-downloaded again no error message ^_^

Cannot unwrap software to install as popup window said "The key cannot be decrypted".

Hi,
I just downloaded Everdesk after downloading Microsoft Security Essentials. Install went great. Now, I cannot verify license. I tried signing in with my Google account and was given the error wrong user name & password. So I signed up with EverDesk online for registration. When I entered that user name & password I was given the following error: Email & password not for standard edition.
Please help!
TIA
Deb

I prefer Zimbra which is free and a nice interface and can be used for almost any email and multiple emails.
http://www.zimbra.com/products/desktop.html

@47 Giveaway of the Day project team

"If AVG’s own option to ‘Ignore the threat’ doesn’t work properly and still deletes the file, then we can only recommend uninstalling AVG and replacing it with a better anti-virus. We recommend Microsoft Security Essentials (windows.microsoft.com/mse) – it’s free, it’s light and fast, it’s reliable, and it’s from THE industry leader."

Very strange: it's sure that you don't know how AVG works. It has an option to stop working for 5 or 10 minutes. So you can install Everdesk, while AVG is still installed.
After restart of Windows will AVG give you an alert.
Very strange that you think that MS Security Essential is good: test shows that other products are better.
The new version doesn't solve the problem's.
Everdesk is slow, very slow.

Ootje

Giovanni http://www.urlvoid.com/scan/dreammail.eu/

Detections 3/22 (13.64%)
Status detected DETECTED
,dreammail(dot)eu/download/DreamMail4685_Green.rar 82.165.56.80 Trojan

An update - the new version of the download is workable - turns out there was an issue with Firefox Java plugin that needed updating...

All the same it has now installed (new version)and was only able to log in using Google log in (not email log in using EverDesk site login).

Now having a look at program, but not ready to populate email folders with full contents of GMail in folder having denied the mail account settings the option to 'automatically download messages small that 50KB'.

There may be a huge number of headers let alone trying to deal with all the mail attached to those headers....

AJ

In the meantime, I achieved a successful installation of the software. Furthermore, I could set up my accounts by Yahoo and Google Mail, but I couldn’t manage to set up my t-online account. Although I’ve been using exactly the same access data as I do in my present email client and in my Mail Washer, I always get this error message:

„Cannot connect to this mail server.

Error message:
Socket Error # 10060
Connection timed out.”

After that I tried out each thinkable possibility but every time when I test the settings, I get this error message again. Is it possible that EverDesk cannot handle a connection to a secure pop-server which is used by t-online?

Needs to be able to minimize to system tray and have notification of receiving mail. Other wise need software and I set up all my accounts on it gmail/hotmail included

The part about this being the *first* email client to store the messages as separate files in a plain directory tree is false. PMMail, an email client originally for OS/2 systems that was later ported to Windows 95, stored its mail that way over a decade ago. The file format definition existed as an RFC several years before that, which suggests it was also used on *ix systems.

The minimum allocation size for files is the disadvantage of that structure: on most NTFS drives, even a single 100-byte "hello world" email will tie up 4096 bytes of disc space.

Regarding the Send and Receive Buttons, At the top right of the program somewhere around there is a button you can click to add the buttons such as preview, , receive and send. Still that gap at the top of the screen though, you can add shortcuts to programs such as Word etc. I find some of this not necessary as I launch my word processor and spreadsheet from the icons pinned to the task bar. Now if this company created their own Office solution and integrated it into ever desk, then it would be a professional suite. But that would only increase the file size of it.

Not bad of a program. Glad I had some extra time today to go back and find these quirks in the program and sort out my initial doubts about it.

Very high risk to use an email client that requires registration.

The next time your Windows breaks and requires reinstallation (which is guaranteed to happen), you no longer have an email client.

What a load of ...... This has to be the most frustrating (and unnecessary) registration process ever. First AVG complains about GOTDs wrapper, then says EverDesk.exe has Win32/Heur virus (pretty sure it doesn't - as can be seen from Developers comment @47) then you need to migrate through the ridiculous email registration process - using a valid email (preferably Google account) email address, which I am not overly comfortable with.

It then verifies your account, logs you into EverDesk and sends email confirmation. Continue with installation and then try to run ED only to find ED will not start as it tries to log into the (validated?) Google email account (whether logged into the ED site or logged out)- comes up with an 'Invalid user name or password' - how is that possible?.

Mindblowingly frustrating. On the face of what I have been able to see EssentialPIM (free) does a similar job (more than just an email client, and Giovanni has offered many alternatives) however, to be fair ED does have a lot more functionality beyond the email, contacts, calendar and 'To Dos' (tasks) if you require it.

I see they have just updated the GOTD version with a few 'bug fixes' so will see if new version works.

AJ

From feature list. Can encrypt mails.
Info at http://www.everdesk.com/support/help/pgp-encryption
If everdesk uses "Pgp", then I assume Everdesk bought license from Symantec, who currently own pgp.
A gotder here could confirm by looking for "pgp" files in the Everdesk install folder, or in common files, etc.

Maybe everdesk google edition is styled like google? These google features seems to be about the regular everdesk:
http://www.everdesk.com/features/details#gmail_support

Re #61: it would be informative to your users if you or the developer could explain what - if any - realations these "minor bug fixes" have with the false positives of AVG.

TO we have to re-install? Do we have do de-install before the re-install?

Dear users,

please note that download file has been updated due to minor bug fixes on the Developer's side.

Make sure to re-download the installation materials to obtain the newer version.

Sorry for the inconvenience.

--
Regards,
GOTD team

The first and hopefully only time I got a virus on my desktop was from an e-mail that I received through Outlook or Outlook Express. I am not sure which one I had been using. Does 'EverDesk' have protections to keep this from happening?

I have built a new pc windows7 64bit.To transfer email from xp is a nightmare, all address have to be rewritten (no 2nd licence for micosoft office) This program I thought would help. Install in xp, back up & restore in win7 piece of cake.
Only unlike other gaotd programs which I can load onto many pc's this give away only allows 1 pc to be loaded. Can not be bothered to download & install a demo onto xp.
Thank the stars for Giovanni. With his input I still might be able to get my new email working
Keep up the good work Ciao . If they shut you down, I'm gone too

I use Poco mail.best on the planet.

Download and install without any problem. But after start, I saw that it is only trial version for 30 days. I'm quite disappointed.

HI,
First when I tried to install AVG found a virus: c:/win32 HEUR
Second: The readme link took me to the site and after I created the account, I was asked for payment for the full price of the softeare.

Thanks.

Deb

Windows Live Mail (which replaced Outlook Express) handles Gmail fine for me, also Hotmail and Yahoo. It does POP and IMAP; also Usenet and RSS feeds, has contacts and calendar. While I have some complaints about it it does work well enough and it's free. Am I missing something? IMO putting each email in a separate file results in massive disk space waste. I don't get it.

Just to reiterate what has been pointed out--this email client does support Gmail. Once you get to the setup, you select it as an option and it's pretty easy to set it up. I almost passed on this because of the incorrect comments about Gmail.

I need to play around with it a bit to see if it would make a good replacement for eM Client.

@46 SoftwareJunkie why not use sticky pass,given away here,logs in automtically,or robo form? :)

Hey everyone, if you are having some issues with the registration code, there is no code to enter. Once it says you are registered, use the email and password you created on the developers site, go back to the registration box and enter that data. Then the program would be registered after that.

@ Greg
EverDesk Standard Edition (EDS) does support and works perfectly fine with Gmail - the difference with Google Edition is that the latter has special Gmail features, which no

other email client provides: stars, important, labels, sync with Google calendar, sync with Google contacts, sync with Google Docs(!) and has familiar Google interface icons

and colors.

@ Rab108
We checked the perfomance of the www.everdesk.com - there were no downtimes today. We guess that there were some problems with the connection between your location and our

server. Besides, the load on our server is way far from high as we only handle licensing and website visitors - the installation file is handled by GOTD itself.

@ asilaydyingdl
Agree. EverDesk is not universal application, which meet the requirements of all the users on Internet - every application on the market has its own target audience.

EverDesk is highly appreciated by those, who works with mail and files and need to keep all the information in one place, regardless, whether it is email, a document, etc.

and not to switch between multiple applications and windows to get access to the required information. There are other features which are vital for some people while

absolutely useless for other.

@ Pascal
Accepted. This is a totally new website design and the screenshots have not been updated yet. Will be done ASAP. The program evolves as fast as never before and future

releases will bring a lot of new functionality and features.

@ faircot
- Please read the readme.txt which comes witht he installation file. Registration of the account on EverDesk website is required in order to issue a license - that's where

the email address and the password are entered (alternatively, Google login credentials cam be used instead).
- New mail accounts are set in Settings > Mail > mail Accounts > Add
- Online help files are widely used in software industry. Agree, there are drawbacks, but there are advantages too. Will consider adding an offline help with the program.

@ Peter
Gmail support is there - please read our above response to Greg.

@ Trucker
Respectfully disagree. You have to use multiple applications in order to get the same functionality as EverDesk, and still, you can not set your email client to sort your

mail into regular Windows folder where your other documents and files related to the same project or subject are located. With EverDesk you have your documents, your mail,

your attachments related to the same subject in the same folder, which can be accessed from within Windowws Explorer even if you do not have EverDesk installed. trt doing

this with Outlook pst file. Not to mention, that Outlook or any other email client works doesn't work with the documents - only mail, calendar, contacts etc.
Ideal interface doesn't exist - it is not only the matter of individual taste, but also always a compromize between familiar and new - not always a bad thing. Appearance can

be changed through numerous included skins.

@ bettersafethansorry
Just the opposite - with EverDesk all your email messages are stored as separate eml files - industry standard, and not buried in the proprietary database files as in

Thunderbird or Outlook. You can view eml files in Windows Explorer even without EverDesk is not installed. Not to mention, that once your single Outlook pst file is lost or

corrupted - all your mail is gone. With EverDesk it is simply impossible and your messages are treated same way as your regular files and documents.

@ Birk Binnard
Agree. But web interfaces have substantial limitations when compared to offline clients. Encryption, access to all your mail offline, workng with attachments, etc. Downtimes

also happen, even with companies like Google, Yahoo and Microsoft. Set up IMAP account and you will have up to date emails not only online, but offline too.

@ Harroman
Gmail support is there - please read our above response to Greg.
No software is perfect - we are constantly working on not only polishing the existing features, but also on adding new functionality and interface improvements.

@ Pranav
Thank you for excellent comments and suggestions. For Google Apps the Google Edition is ideal since it was done with Goole services in mind and it syncs with mail, contacts,

calendars AND docs.

@ Kurt
Please read readme.txt - no activation code or registration key is required - after creating EverDesk account use the same email address and password to activate the license

after launch of EverDesk.

@ David Woodroof
Gmail support is there - please read our above response to Greg.
We will consider running campaign for Google Edition. Thank you for the suggestion.
We will be happy to receivse your suggestions and ideas and if feasible to implement - the lifetime license is your with our thanks :)

@ Nate
Depending what do you mean by excellent - Postbox is great piece of software, but it lacks a lot of Gmail features and small, but useful and familiar to Gmail users things,

like stars, mark as important, labels, etc. We urge you to try Google Edition to see all the difference. BTW, does Postbox (or any other excellent email client works with

Google Docs? ;)

@ Peter
Do not quite understand the purpose of creating another EverDesk account with the same email address. In order to have another license issued to the same email address? If

we miss something useful here, your thoughts on this issue will be highly appreciated.

@ Gary
Gmail support is there - please read our above response to Greg.
Both applications can not be run at the same time. We will consider running campaign for Google Edition. Thank you for the suggestion.

@ Skye-hook
Agree - entering just email address and password to create a new mail account is much easier and simpler, than enetring all data manually. Everdesk provides this for major

mail provideers, while covering other mail providers and mail servers is already in works. Thank you for the useful observation.

@ ouialaraison
Gmail support is there - please read our above response to Greg.
Google Edition is more advance application for Google servcies, which supports not only Gmail, but also syncs with Contacts, Calendars AND Docs. It also has familiar

elements of Google interface. It is the only offline client which works with mail AND docs and is already highly appreciated by many Google Apps users.

@ Giovanni
Great summary of other email clients. None of which, BTW, works with Google Docs ;)
EverDesk Standard is for users who do not use Google servcies, and there are millions of them. If you only need to have Gmail support on the same level as other email

clients provide - it is there. So in terms of Google support EverDesk at least not worse than any other email client (and EverDesk even works better with labels). It has a

lot of other features which are simply not available in other email clients - whether it is worth the money asked or not - it dfepends on the needs of particular person. For

some people it's worth much more than $45, while for other even free license is not of any interest.

@ Chris Gunner
Please try Google Edition first and if you like it - please contact us at support@everdesk.com

@ George
@ Mark J,
Gmail support is there - please read our above response to Greg.

@Chris Roy Jackson
- You can set up Gmail accounts in EverDesk same way you can do this in any other email client.
- EverDesk supports rich text (HTML) and plain text messages.
- You can set up as many email accounts as you wish - no limits

Responses to other comments are coming later.

didnt see this free app mentioned its decent for aggregating mail/social also

digsby
http://www.digsby.com/

#36, Chris Roy Jackson: if you haven't already, 'google' "import rules from outlook express to outlook" and you'll see lots of results. Hopefully there will be one that answers your question.

I'm unable to import my mail or contacts from Outlook 2003 using WinXP. When I try to bring my mail/contacts in, I get an error message: "Unspecified Error" along with a processor/memory location.

Andrew (#40)

" @36
I do not know about Outlook Express but in Outlook 2010 if you go to Rules – manage rules – options you can import/export rules. Hopefully this helps.

Comment by Andrew — October 25th, 2012 at 8:58 am "

Thanks for the info, However, (Unfortunately) it's going to be a couple of weeks before I'll be able to get back to my PC that has XP installed (incuding XP) to check that out.
I really thought that I looked carefully at ALL of the options, but it's POSSIBLE that I missed that one.

If anyone reading this has XP installed and can check for me it would be GREATLY Appreciated!!!

The Developer's message regarding false positive detection by AVG:

"We are aware that AVG incorrectly detects some 'virus' in EverDesk because of the code protection system we are using. We have contacted the developers of AVG about it months ago, and so have other developers using the same code protection system (called Obsidium, www.obsidium.de) including the developer of Obsidium himself. We have also used AVG's False Positive Report form at http://samplesubmit.avg.com/us-en/false-detection. Feel free to contact them too, maybe they will pay more attention to multiple reports.

Needless to say that AVG is wrong, there is no virus in EverDesk, and none of the leading commercial anti-virus products (McAfee, Kaspersky, ESET, BitDefender, Microsoft Security Essentials, Dr. Web, among the ones we have tested EverDesk with) detect anything bad in EverDesk.

Unfortunately, AVG is still falsely detecting the 'virus' in EverDesk. We are not the only ones there: according to the independent anti-virus testing group AV Comparatives (www.av-comparatives.org), AVG has one of the highest false positive alarm rates in the industry (http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/docs/avc_fdt_201209_en.pdf, see page 8).

If AVG's own option to 'Ignore the threat' doesn't work properly and still deletes the file, then we can only recommend uninstalling AVG and replacing it with a better anti-virus. We recommend Microsoft Security Essentials (windows.microsoft.com/mse) - it's free, it's light and fast, it's reliable, and it's from THE industry leader."

--
Best regards,
GOTD team

I won't be using this for a number of reasons. A few months back I was shopping around for the best free email client / Outlook alternative for my POP accounts and learned Mozilla Thunderbird was the highest rated and most popular. When learning how to set it up in their forums I was alarmed at how many people's email had been hacked due to the way it was configured by the user. I don't know why an email client would even have thier program capable of a configuration that is unsecure. Some email clients don't even have security setting. Just search 'How to Configure the Security Settings in Thunderbird' and you will see the set-up process can be daunting and decided it would be easier to still with my multiple browser solution I mention below. Giovanni mentoned Pop peeper whose security settings are mentioned here: http://www.poppeeper.com/faq.php?q=securePP (Thanks BTW Giovanni for your posts. If you weren't offering freeware alternatives I would be so thanks for the hard work!)
I use a different browser for each POP email account. IE for work, Chrome for gmail and one yahoo, Firefox for another, Opera, Safafi, Slimbrowser, etc, They save your cookies so you stay logged-in.
As for this company not offereing the gmail version, I think that was a bad mistake. If a person uses this for their gmail for a year, they are very likely to grow accustomed to it's interface and buy the product when the license expires.

Outlook is still the best paid email client so if I am dropping money on one it would be Outlook. I may try Pop peeper on a junk email account and see if I like that.

The offer today, goes the opposite against security in my opinion.

Instead of storing messages in open directories, everything must be encrypted, and preferably portable on a USB stick.

"The Bat! Voyager" does this, has a search engine, can export/import unix mbox etc. Voyager also handles thousands of emails and multiple accounts, has filters, dispatch, rfc's compliant and costs about the same last I checked.

It does offer a PIM and perhaps that should be the focus of this product. As a file manager I really have to laugh, it's a long way away from the power of ztree.

google support (or lack thereof) is actually something I could care less about. The Bat! Voyager is RFC compliant that all you need to know, it'll handle hundreds of gmail accounts if that's what your into. Also encryption is built in.

Everdesk should go download The Bat! Voyager and see how a secure, rfc's compliant, built in encryption, portable email client, with a streaming ticker, should work.

There is an old saying all coding projects eventually include email capability on the way to becoming the kitchen sink of code.

I'll give her a thumbs up cause it has a Calendar, Address Book and PIM.

Sorry, Birk (10), leaving all your messages on the server is not the safest option: accounts are frequently hacked these days and the owners may be completely "locked out" and lose all their messages. I was lucky when it happened to me because the hackers didn't change my password; nevertheless, my on-line "sent items" folder was completely cleaned out. I believe in downloading them and leaving them on the server. Furthermore, in my experience dealing with them locally is a lot quicker. Also, having the emails as separate files does obviate some of the risks of loss inherent in other programs, notably Outlook Express, albeit at the cost of occupying considerably more room on the hard drive.

username/email/password still not valid after more than an hour - uninstalled EverDesk!

Say, I'm confused why so many people commented on lack of Gmail support. I set up my account under five minutes with the help of its wizard. Both Gmail POP3 and IMAP are in the drop-down menu.

As mentioned above by James - you can get the FREE Zimbra Desktop which will enable you to download all your emails and sync lots of other things to your desktop here:
http://www.zimbra.com/products/desktop.html

@36
I do not know about Outlook Express but in Outlook 2010 if you go to Rules - manage rules - options you can import/export rules. Hopefully this helps.

"EverDesk is the first and only fully-featured email client on the market which stores email messages as separate files together with other files and documents in regular Windows folders."

Simply not true.

If you want a real alternative to Outlook in terms of contacts, email, calendar and tasks, check out Chaos Software's Intellect. Fast, powerful, portable, and even stores messages as separate files (sheesh).

http://www.chaossoftware.com/products.aspx

#1, 11, 15 and others.

The GAOTD version does support GMAIL (POP3 or IMAP) it just doesn't support all of the other Google functionality (Calendar, Docs etc). Google is not just GMAIL!!!! Plus all of their software if FREE!!!

Before you complain about software....TRY IT and stop wasting our time with your invalid/unwarranted complaints!!!

EverDesk seems as a program that requires some sort of activation to work and I won't trust all my email stuff to a client that probably uses its own tech and at the same time requires any activation to work - so this is a No Go for me.
Also their page http://www.everdesk.com/features is completely blank in IE8 (refresh doesn't help)

@Giovanni
Thank you for all your great posts!

With respect to "Foxmail" then the version 6 is said to perform some kind of privacy violation - don't know if version 7 have same problem (?).
Info source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxmail

Quote : "The Dutch edition of PC Magazine reported that version 6.0 of Foxmail occasionally sends email usage data to datacollect.foxmail.com.cn, but otherwise generally described it as an "excellent email client", recommending version 5.0.8 (the last one before the acquisition), which isn't affected by this issue "

Also I think that you forgot "Eudora OSE 1.0" : http://www.eudora.com/ & https://wiki.mozilla.org/Eudora_Releases
(Runs on Windows, Ubuntu Linux & Mac OS X. Everybody please read installation notes. Mac users : Mac Eudora WILL NOT run under Mac OS X 10.7 and later : http://www.eudora.com/faq/OSX_Lion.html )

Perhaps Giovanna ought to read your posts - I am in family with someone married to her ;-)