Where I and the cleanmem developer were wrong was in saying that these processes are not purged to the swap file. Where the critics of this are wrong is in assuming that means that these processes will absolutely have to be recalled resulting in a lot of disk thrashing. Processes you’ll don’t need anymore will NEVER be recalled in that session. Better to store them in the page file than in RAM. Without seeing your 420 lines of code, I made the educated guess that your program wouldn’t respond to the action generated by that call. (Is it a program if it does nothing but take up memory? You said yourself, “My bad code”.) I see no reason to revise my assessment.

Here’s a much better explanation than I could ever give:
http://www.ddj.com/windows/184416804

I omitted code to make it more readable, do you really want to see 420 lines of C++. I simply wrote a program which will request some available memory, then fail to ask for it to be released. The OS by the way has no means by which it can say that memory allocated to an application is no longer needed, the application determines when it has finished with memory. The OS does not say, “ok, that’s it, your 10 minutes of memory allocation is up”.

All I did was to test something which was claimed by the developer, something which I believe not to be true.

25 years of programming experience. C++, Oracle and assembler by the way.

What you actually said in your original post:

>regardless if it’s freemem pro, Cleanmem, or TweakRAM, or any of the countless hundreds of memory >optimizers out there, THEY DO NOT DO WHAT THEY CLAIM TO DO.

You plainly state Cleanmem does not do what it claims to do and you are flat out wrong.

>so when an “optimizer” runs some do actually flush RAM, but as previously posted it is flushed to the >page file and then it has to be reloaded by the operating system

Again this is false. It may be true for most but Cleanmem does not flush the memory to a page file!

>so argue if you must, download and use if you want, but the facts are googleably plain, Memory >Optimizers are a hoax and junk software.

The facts are certainly not “googleably?? plain” and while it may be true that most memory optimizers are hoaxes and/or junk software. Cleanmem is neither!

>I did in fact download and run your highly touted program, of which I googled it looking for reviews and >pretty much found nothing but repeating download descriptions, and with a 3 gig 2.4gHz core2 quad cpu, >recieved no performance change at all and recieved 800mb of ram back, for about 1 minute, I tested it >with a spread sheet, a paint program, a browser, a file manager in addition to the many back ground >applications and utilities that run constantly.

Recovering 800 MB’s is a good thing isn’t it… particularly if it’s a memory leak? Now you’ve tried it and you KNOW IT WORKS but instead of admitting you were wrong you’re still trying to smear Cleanmem by mentioning this BOGUS “one minute” thing. You know for a fact you used the application again that was holding the memory previous to it being flushed by Cleanmen in that period of time and it took the memory back which is what it’s supposed to do yet you’re trying to twist that into something bad which is really pathetic. If you hadn’t used the application again for a longer period of time that 800 MB’s would have remained free until you did be it an hour, two, three… whatever and you know that.

>so where it may be true this program “flushes” unused memory back into the memory pool, it does not >make a difference of much import to a new 21st century computer system., and as previously stated by >others with agreeing statements, on new systems with 1gig or more of ram, any kind of memory >“boosting” software is pretty much worthless and anyone who buy’s it is being scammed

Again you’re wrong on all accounts except admitting that Cleanmem does in fact flush unused memory back into the pool! It is also not the memory “boosting” software you mention. It simply flushes unused memory including “memory leaks.”

To sum up what was actually said my most of the others here including you:

1. Memory Optimizers do not work… they’re a scam.
False! True for most perhaps but not Cleanmen.

2. Memory Optimizers flush the memory to a page file and slow your computer down.
False! True for most but not Cleanmem.

3: Memory Optimizers use all your memory to do what they do causing a major performance hit on your computer.
False! True for most but not Cleanmem.

4: Memory Optimizers do not improve the performance of your computer.
True for once! Nevertheless I never said they did!

I will conclude with the most misleading statement made by you and several others.

5: On a modern 21st Century computer with large amounts of RAM this type of application is not needed.
False, False and False! “Memory Leaks” are a fact of life and they can cause serious issues like application crashes, game crashes and machine crashes. Many modern “apps” and “games” have memory leaks just like their predecessors and I don’t foresee this problem every going away as long as people are coding software.

It doesn’t matter how modern your computer is or how much RAM you have! That’s irrelevant! A memory leak is still a memory leak and they are problematic. NO computer, old or new, can prevent them thus any computer can benefit using Cleanmem to free up the memory that’s never going to be released by the applications or games themselves which may prevent the aforementioned app, game and machine crashes.

Many of these programs slow down your PC because there also written poorly, but not all do. Yes, the new OSs, especially the NT family, manage memory well enough that they don’t really need an optimizer. But many of the programs you run do, that’s why meowzz – 91 – can receive the results she did. Though they’re not typical.

No – again – to those who say all memory is meant to be used. Yes, it’s meant to be used, but by needed processes, not dead processes you’re no longer using.

None of these really optimize anything. They can help a little to ward off the slow downs, freezes, and crashes from high memory usage.

I’m still waiting for those donations from the people who tell everybody else to buy things. Seems they’re not THAT generous with their money. I’ve haven’t seen an issue here – not even screensavers – where more intelligent people wrote more nonsense because they were determined to make one size fit all. From what you read here, TweakRAM can work for some, but there are clearly better alternatives, including buying RAM if you can.

Okay, I am just shocked with this program. After reading a bunch of comments it looked like another useless program. I’m willing to try though as this particular computer has almost always had memory issues. (Slightly older Dell laptop, XP, maxed out on RAM @ 1.5GB)

I’ve tried many types of software for these memory issues in the past ranging from Norton Systemworks to little tweaky programs even more obscure than this one. The best so far was actually a side feature of a program called “Powerstrip” and the built in memory freeing feature was NOT supposed to work with anything above a 16k system – but it would, in a pinch, free up just that little bit – enough maybe to save a file that wouldn’t otherwise save for example.

Well, this program, TweakRAM, installed and activated just fine on Windows XP. I ran the program and nothing changed. Then I realized that its default was to sort of read how much memory was already free and use that as the “free up X amount of memory” number. At the time I had only 258MB of free memory. So I took it off auto-free and moved the slider over just a little to 350mb and hit “go”. Whoa! Sure enough, suddenly I had 350mb of free ram! And it did NOT take it from increasing load on swap file or virtual memory!

Okay, experimented further – moved slider to 500mb – now I had 500mb free! Woo hoo! Now I could save the text file I’d left open as there wasn’t memory enough to save it! (Yes, some of us really do keep on using such a machine if we overall like the machine! LOL!)

Okay, getting really daring now – moved the slider all the way over to 615mb! WOW! Yes, it worked and not only that, it seems to have even freed up a bit extra as I now have 753mb of free memory! For this computer that is incredible!

I then moved slider bar to 800mb – over half this computer’s memory. Had at the time many things open and running: 11 instances of IE, Yahoo messenger, 4 text files, a few background processes. Well, it didn’t free up the full 800mb but it did give me 777MB of free memory despite running all that!

With all the things I’ve tried in the past, I am so surprised this has done anything! For me anyways, this one’s a keeper!

It does make me wonder though – maybe this program is somehow highly specialized in that it DID work on this machine where nothing else has yet for others here it did virtually nothing. Maybe there is a super narrow line of machines this will do any good for and this one just happens to fall into that group. At any rate, I am glad to discover this program and amazed something has worked on this computer at all!

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I could do with a really good memory/ram manager, but this junk isn’t it. You can try it if you want, but basically just using Task manager is much easier “Ctrl + Alt + Del” as for the memory manager, well a simple look at the My Computer screen in the Start menu and righ clicking your hard drive which is usually c:/ right click the drive icon and select properties, it will show you how much space you have on hard drive etc.

Any program I have found under $20.00 I have found seems to do m,ore harm than good, in most cases and this is one of them.

BIG THUMBS DOWN.

Also GAOTD when are you going to stop posting this program, I check this site daily and I must see this atleast once a month, boy isn’t anyone getting sick of the repeated junk, how about something really worth it such as DVD Fab or DVD XCopy or maybe an Ashampoo Burning Studio or many of Ashampoo’s other excellent programs, they would leap at a software promoter like GAOTD
support@ashampoo.com

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