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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/sysresources-manager/comment-page-2/#comment-133249</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 16:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The &quot;crash&quot; is a &quot;Registry cleaner error&quot;.  I ran Advanced System Care, and it flagged a lot of registry entries as ungood.  After they were removed, (and after a trip away from home for a few days), the change in SysResources Manager is seen.

A System Restore fixed the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;crash&#8221; is a &#8220;Registry cleaner error&#8221;.  I ran Advanced System Care, and it flagged a lot of registry entries as ungood.  After they were removed, (and after a trip away from home for a few days), the change in SysResources Manager is seen.</p>
<p>A System Restore fixed the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/sysresources-manager/comment-page-2/#comment-133053</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Update, crashing.

I&#039;ve had SysResources Manager up for over a week.  Then it pretty much dies.

I run XP SP2.  I got the &quot;CPU Usage Query failed&quot; on startup, like #72 said.  Now menu items are in Unicode-Goop.  

Worse, the main screen display is all labelled with &quot;1&quot; and showing no data.  

Don&#039;t know if it is a product bug, windows bug, operator error ... but the program lasted a little over a week.

Oh, well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Update, crashing.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had SysResources Manager up for over a week.  Then it pretty much dies.</p>
<p>I run XP SP2.  I got the &#8220;CPU Usage Query failed&#8221; on startup, like #72 said.  Now menu items are in Unicode-Goop.  </p>
<p>Worse, the main screen display is all labelled with &#8220;1&#8243; and showing no data.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if it is a product bug, windows bug, operator error &#8230; but the program lasted a little over a week.</p>
<p>Oh, well.</p>
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		<title>By: Debashis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debashis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>see i dont know abt all these technical thins and never had i used such things earlier , this is the first time abut i did like it as it just freed some space from my ram,and i cld see sum diff in my comps performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see i dont know abt all these technical thins and never had i used such things earlier , this is the first time abut i did like it as it just freed some space from my ram,and i cld see sum diff in my comps performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
		<link>http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/sysresources-manager/comment-page-2/#comment-132177</link>
		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#75, watcher13, I wasn&#039;t criticizing your post or tech writers.  I was merely pointing out that Microsoft&#039;s documentation isn&#039;t written by the programmers, they attempt to communicate what they&#039;ve done to technical writers, and details get garbled and changes never get communicated.  Programs and the OS should never freeze due to a lack of resources (if they do, that&#039;s bad coding).  Any attempt to acquire resources can fail, and applications and the OS should have code to deal with that.  There should always be reserved resources which allow critical errors to be handled and communicated.  In a virtual memory environment, memory fragmentation due to other processes shouldn&#039;t occur.  If a process has problems with memory fragmentation within its own virtual memory space, it needs better memory management algorithms.  An OS should keep track of ownership of all resources.  If a process loses track of resources which it hasn&#039;t passed ownership of to another process, then the OS should free those resources when that process terminates.  Windows sometimes doesn&#039;t do what it should, but that&#039;s bad OS design (or lack of design).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#75, watcher13, I wasn&#8217;t criticizing your post or tech writers.  I was merely pointing out that Microsoft&#8217;s documentation isn&#8217;t written by the programmers, they attempt to communicate what they&#8217;ve done to technical writers, and details get garbled and changes never get communicated.  Programs and the OS should never freeze due to a lack of resources (if they do, that&#8217;s bad coding).  Any attempt to acquire resources can fail, and applications and the OS should have code to deal with that.  There should always be reserved resources which allow critical errors to be handled and communicated.  In a virtual memory environment, memory fragmentation due to other processes shouldn&#8217;t occur.  If a process has problems with memory fragmentation within its own virtual memory space, it needs better memory management algorithms.  An OS should keep track of ownership of all resources.  If a process loses track of resources which it hasn&#8217;t passed ownership of to another process, then the OS should free those resources when that process terminates.  Windows sometimes doesn&#8217;t do what it should, but that&#8217;s bad OS design (or lack of design).</p>
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		<title>By: watcher13</title>
		<link>http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/sysresources-manager/comment-page-2/#comment-132152</link>
		<dc:creator>watcher13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 09:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fubar, I wasn&#039;t using those quotes to indicate big problems with Windows memory management. I was using it to indicate that it&#039;s not 100% perfect. I think it&#039;s getting close. I don&#039;t understand your point. In the first paragraph of Russinovich&#039;s &quot;Physical Memory&quot; article (I think he&#039;s a really sharp resource, by the way.) that you quote is this phrase: &quot;and how to diagnose leaks&quot;. So he&#039;s showing how to diagnose something that&#039;s obsolete? But your telling me, and not him? Honestly, your obviously much sharper than I&#039;ll ever be. I just think sometimes people get lost in the technical sauce. It helps to backup and see the broader picture. Memory leaks are becoming a thing of the past, but they still exist. Try it with IE7 and you&#039;ll see, though it&#039;s very gradual, in certain situations it can leak. Been there, done that. And I&#039;ve seen the explanation of writers who have pointed that Windows frequently keeps in memory the initial start up code of cetain .net framework routines, even though they runs once, period. If Microsoft can&#039;t identify this as wasteful use of memory.... I&#039;m closer to a tech writer than anything else, and even I can see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fubar, I wasn&#8217;t using those quotes to indicate big problems with Windows memory management. I was using it to indicate that it&#8217;s not 100% perfect. I think it&#8217;s getting close. I don&#8217;t understand your point. In the first paragraph of Russinovich&#8217;s &#8220;Physical Memory&#8221; article (I think he&#8217;s a really sharp resource, by the way.) that you quote is this phrase: &#8220;and how to diagnose leaks&#8221;. So he&#8217;s showing how to diagnose something that&#8217;s obsolete? But your telling me, and not him? Honestly, your obviously much sharper than I&#8217;ll ever be. I just think sometimes people get lost in the technical sauce. It helps to backup and see the broader picture. Memory leaks are becoming a thing of the past, but they still exist. Try it with IE7 and you&#8217;ll see, though it&#8217;s very gradual, in certain situations it can leak. Been there, done that. And I&#8217;ve seen the explanation of writers who have pointed that Windows frequently keeps in memory the initial start up code of cetain .net framework routines, even though they runs once, period. If Microsoft can&#8217;t identify this as wasteful use of memory&#8230;. I&#8217;m closer to a tech writer than anything else, and even I can see that.</p>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#70, lostinlodos, see &lt;a href=&quot;http://windows.about.com/b/2009/02/06/xp-going-to-extended-support-status.htm?nl=1&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;XP Going to &quot;Extended Support&quot; Status&lt;/a&gt; and the &lt;a href=&quot;http://windows.about.com/od/faqs/f/xpsp3.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;XP SP3 FAQ&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#70, lostinlodos, see <a href="http://windows.about.com/b/2009/02/06/xp-going-to-extended-support-status.htm?nl=1" rel="nofollow">XP Going to &#8220;Extended Support&#8221; Status</a> and the <a href="http://windows.about.com/od/faqs/f/xpsp3.htm" rel="nofollow">XP SP3 FAQ</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamus</title>
		<link>http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/sysresources-manager/comment-page-2/#comment-132150</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 06:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#63: Have you tried Safe Mode (though the installation of such program should not be that troublesome)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#63: Have you tried Safe Mode (though the installation of such program should not be that troublesome)?</p>
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		<title>By: xsouldeath</title>
		<link>http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/sysresources-manager/comment-page-2/#comment-132149</link>
		<dc:creator>xsouldeath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CPU usage query failed..</description>
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		<title>By: Fubar</title>
		<link>http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/sysresources-manager/comment-page-2/#comment-132148</link>
		<dc:creator>Fubar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:26:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#41, mike, I disagree about the usefulness of application/process/memory/disk monitoring applications for the average user.  It&#039;s true that more advanced features will be beyond the understanding of many users.  It&#039;s also true that monitors consume some resources.  I find AnVir&#039;s monitoring to be particularly useful.  As I have a quad-core system, CPU is rarely an issue (an individual application can max out, but rarely affects other applications).  Also, I find Vista&#039;s memory management to be effective, and I never see low values of free physical memory.  Therefor, my system is primarily I/O limited.  AnVir shows the top consuming processes for each type of resource, as well as aggregate utilization of each resource.  Additionally, CPU load is indicated per-core, and disk utilization is indicated per-drive.  If there&#039;s a performance problem, I just check the indicators in the tray (utilizing the tooltips as appropriate), it&#039;s usually a disk utilization issue, and I can see what the offending process is.  The Vista Reliability and Performance monitor is better for monitoring page file utilization (it can perform much the same general monitoring, but is very inconvenient compared to AnVir&#039;s tray icons and tooltips).  Even average users will occasionally find a need to check whether a process is (still) running.

#44, mike, regarding the termination of XP support, I was merely informing users that the prudent thing is to download any desired updates and patches before the termination date, while automatic updates still functions properly.  While some articles had concerns about the availability of patches and service packs beyond that date, I suspect that they&#039;ll still be available via manual downloads.  And yes, security updates will still be available.

#65, watcher13, I found your quotes in Windows Help and Support.  The thing to remember about Windows Help and Support is that while it can be quite useful, it&#039;s written by tech writers, not programmers.  Some of it is flat-out incorrect or obsolete.

#67, lostinlodos, your comments indicate a lack of understanding of how virtual memory works.  Yes, RAM is many orders of magnitude faster than hard disks.  However, as long as the working set for any given process is in RAM, and doesn&#039;t need any portion kicked out for another process, there won&#039;t be any paging related to that process.  Further, most people incorrectly assume that virtual memory means paging to disk.  I&#039;m not going to address whatever Microsoft does, but the general concept of virtual memory allows it to be used entirely in-RAM (and the following also applies to the disk-paging case).  Allocating each process its own virtual memory space eliminates issues with memory fragmentation across processes (depending upon how a process manages its own memory space, it can internally fragment its own virtual memory space, but it won&#039;t be affected by other processes).  You should always leave virtual memory enabled; doing so will generally prevent issues related to the fragmentation of the physical memory.

If you want to read some of the details of how Windows manages memory, see Mark Russinovich&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2008/07/21/3092070.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pushing the Limits of Windows: Physical Memory&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2008/11/17/3155406.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Pushing the Limits of Windows: Virtual Memory&lt;/a&gt;, although there&#039;s some incorrect information about multiple paging files, which you can &lt;a href=&quot;http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;read here&lt;/a&gt; (may not apply to Vista and higher).  Also, I&#039;ve linked a number of other Microsoft articles on virtual memory and page file management, in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#41, mike, I disagree about the usefulness of application/process/memory/disk monitoring applications for the average user.  It&#8217;s true that more advanced features will be beyond the understanding of many users.  It&#8217;s also true that monitors consume some resources.  I find AnVir&#8217;s monitoring to be particularly useful.  As I have a quad-core system, CPU is rarely an issue (an individual application can max out, but rarely affects other applications).  Also, I find Vista&#8217;s memory management to be effective, and I never see low values of free physical memory.  Therefor, my system is primarily I/O limited.  AnVir shows the top consuming processes for each type of resource, as well as aggregate utilization of each resource.  Additionally, CPU load is indicated per-core, and disk utilization is indicated per-drive.  If there&#8217;s a performance problem, I just check the indicators in the tray (utilizing the tooltips as appropriate), it&#8217;s usually a disk utilization issue, and I can see what the offending process is.  The Vista Reliability and Performance monitor is better for monitoring page file utilization (it can perform much the same general monitoring, but is very inconvenient compared to AnVir&#8217;s tray icons and tooltips).  Even average users will occasionally find a need to check whether a process is (still) running.</p>
<p>#44, mike, regarding the termination of XP support, I was merely informing users that the prudent thing is to download any desired updates and patches before the termination date, while automatic updates still functions properly.  While some articles had concerns about the availability of patches and service packs beyond that date, I suspect that they&#8217;ll still be available via manual downloads.  And yes, security updates will still be available.</p>
<p>#65, watcher13, I found your quotes in Windows Help and Support.  The thing to remember about Windows Help and Support is that while it can be quite useful, it&#8217;s written by tech writers, not programmers.  Some of it is flat-out incorrect or obsolete.</p>
<p>#67, lostinlodos, your comments indicate a lack of understanding of how virtual memory works.  Yes, RAM is many orders of magnitude faster than hard disks.  However, as long as the working set for any given process is in RAM, and doesn&#8217;t need any portion kicked out for another process, there won&#8217;t be any paging related to that process.  Further, most people incorrectly assume that virtual memory means paging to disk.  I&#8217;m not going to address whatever Microsoft does, but the general concept of virtual memory allows it to be used entirely in-RAM (and the following also applies to the disk-paging case).  Allocating each process its own virtual memory space eliminates issues with memory fragmentation across processes (depending upon how a process manages its own memory space, it can internally fragment its own virtual memory space, but it won&#8217;t be affected by other processes).  You should always leave virtual memory enabled; doing so will generally prevent issues related to the fragmentation of the physical memory.</p>
<p>If you want to read some of the details of how Windows manages memory, see Mark Russinovich&#8217;s <a href="http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2008/07/21/3092070.aspx" rel="nofollow">Pushing the Limits of Windows: Physical Memory</a> and <a href="http://blogs.technet.com/markrussinovich/archive/2008/11/17/3155406.aspx" rel="nofollow">Pushing the Limits of Windows: Virtual Memory</a>, although there&#8217;s some incorrect information about multiple paging files, which you can <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/237740" rel="nofollow">read here</a> (may not apply to Vista and higher).  Also, I&#8217;ve linked a number of other Microsoft articles on virtual memory and page file management, in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: lostinlodos</title>
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		<dc:creator>lostinlodos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 05:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more set of notes on Fubar&#039;s posts; 
I run both x32 and x64 versions of Windows XP Pro and Windows Vista Ultimate on the same system. Another computer has Windows XP Pro IA64, Xandros IA base, and Debian IA64. A third runs Windows Media Center Server, Vista x64 Ultimate, 5 flavours of Linux, Free-BSD, and a modified xxxOSx.x. ;) I&#039;ve also recently begun testing Windows 7 x32 and x64 as well. 

x64 and IA64 architecture allow for recognition of some-odd terabytes of ram; I can&#039;t remember the exact number off my head at the moment. Since I do some extensive computer graphics and animation, video conversion and editing, as well as HDCAD modelling it&#039;s quite useful to me. And as I stated above, quite a few of my more standard programs can make use of gluttonous amounts of ram too when you offer it up.  

Allocation is not the same as use. And while Vista is better at &quot;releasing&quot; allocated memory addresses, both still need work. XP sequentially writes to the end of the group of allocated spots. That is, AFTER the last recorded point. 

&#039;Windows XP support ends in April&#039;?; &lt;b&gt;April 2014&lt;/b&gt;! 

But, since this is about the program at hand, with the exception of the memory release and defrag which I still won&#039;t test, it runs stable, I has pretty graphs and bars! It looks all fancy. 
It does mostly the same thing that XP does. It put everything into a nice sleek package.

But XP does all of this already. 
My score 7-8. 
Despite not doing anything that Windows includes already, the somewhat retro style graphics are nice. Beyond that, to see everything this shows for free from within Windows:

hold down ctrl, and shift, and hit escape. then release. 
Click on the Performance and Networking tabs to see the same identical graphs in a less pleasing but also less expensive display.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more set of notes on Fubar&#8217;s posts;<br />
I run both x32 and x64 versions of Windows XP Pro and Windows Vista Ultimate on the same system. Another computer has Windows XP Pro IA64, Xandros IA base, and Debian IA64. A third runs Windows Media Center Server, Vista x64 Ultimate, 5 flavours of Linux, Free-BSD, and a modified xxxOSx.x. ;) I&#8217;ve also recently begun testing Windows 7 x32 and x64 as well. </p>
<p>x64 and IA64 architecture allow for recognition of some-odd terabytes of ram; I can&#8217;t remember the exact number off my head at the moment. Since I do some extensive computer graphics and animation, video conversion and editing, as well as HDCAD modelling it&#8217;s quite useful to me. And as I stated above, quite a few of my more standard programs can make use of gluttonous amounts of ram too when you offer it up.  </p>
<p>Allocation is not the same as use. And while Vista is better at &#8220;releasing&#8221; allocated memory addresses, both still need work. XP sequentially writes to the end of the group of allocated spots. That is, AFTER the last recorded point. </p>
<p>&#8216;Windows XP support ends in April&#8217;?; <b>April 2014</b>! </p>
<p>But, since this is about the program at hand, with the exception of the memory release and defrag which I still won&#8217;t test, it runs stable, I has pretty graphs and bars! It looks all fancy.<br />
It does mostly the same thing that XP does. It put everything into a nice sleek package.</p>
<p>But XP does all of this already.<br />
My score 7-8.<br />
Despite not doing anything that Windows includes already, the somewhat retro style graphics are nice. Beyond that, to see everything this shows for free from within Windows:</p>
<p>hold down ctrl, and shift, and hit escape. then release.<br />
Click on the Performance and Networking tabs to see the same identical graphs in a less pleasing but also less expensive display.</p>
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