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<title><![CDATA[By: sundaymicky]]></title>
<link>https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/plato-ipod-psp-3gp-converter/#comment-61443</link>
<description><![CDATA[yes, it works great!]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 03:25:13 -0400</pubDate>
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<title><![CDATA[By: vanessa]]></title>
<link>https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/plato-ipod-psp-3gp-converter/#comment-61442</link>
<description><![CDATA[this converter is good and everything but becuase its not the full version it will only convert 50% of the video to my i-pod :( so whats the point of putting this on here??]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 10:38:15 -0400</pubDate>
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<title><![CDATA[By: fikel]]></title>
<link>https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/plato-ipod-psp-3gp-converter/#comment-61441</link>
<description><![CDATA[I used to use McAffe Site Advisor. It said that GOTD's site was swarming with infections (the giveaway's). When I clicked more info, it had a comment from GOTD, saying that it is ok now, because they now scan it. I think thier scanner needs to be more accurate.

Sorry, never tried this out. Hadn't got time.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 04:57:36 -0400</pubDate>
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<title><![CDATA[By: Spectere]]></title>
<link>https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/plato-ipod-psp-3gp-converter/#comment-61440</link>
<description><![CDATA[That's a good list, I'd say.  I approve. :)

I hope GOTD starts scrutinizing their offerings a bit more as a result of this incident, at any rate.  Hopefully, nothing like this ever happens again.]]></description>
<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 03:15:53 -0400</pubDate>
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<title><![CDATA[By: KsbjA]]></title>
<link>https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/plato-ipod-psp-3gp-converter/#comment-61439</link>
<description><![CDATA[@Spectere - I can't really say if there have been similar cases. Some optional 'sponsor module' - maybe once, if any at all.
About the novices - like I said, there are different kinds of people. Some read what they're installing, some don't. I don't want to believe a company like Plato would distribute 'bad' spyware. Although - who knows?
Let's recap our ideas so far:
1) Nobody likes spyware.
2) You should read what you install.
3) There are two kinds of people - those who read what they're installing, and those who don't.
4) Second kind are mostly novices, and are more likely to end up in a mess of spyware.
5) As long as a 'sponsor module' does only what's stated in the EULA, it is legal.
6) That doesn't mean it will do no harm to you.
7) GOTD didn't meet their own claim, but they still offer a choice.]]></description>
<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 18:00:09 -0400</pubDate>
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<title><![CDATA[By: Spectere]]></title>
<link>https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/plato-ipod-psp-3gp-converter/#comment-61438</link>
<description><![CDATA[@KsbjA: If that is the case with the "NO ADWARE, NO SPYWARE" claim, GOAD is just being misleading.  I haven't been visiting this site for very long; do you know if there have there been other cases like this in the past?

Most of the novices that I've seen tend to get tripped up and flustered when it comes to software installs.  While I know I don't speak for all computer users, many of them just want to use their software.  They don't care about the nitty gritty.  If your mom does read through all of the information when you're not around, bless her. :)  I haven't seen very many people that do that.

I would, however, like to emphasize my point about how people might know that spyware is bad but not know exactly what spyware is.  If what Fubar posted is the actual EULA, it kind of makes the whole thing sound like an innocent research program.  By reading a blurb like that people might think that they're participating in something good as opposed to the reality of the situation: that they're installing a piece of spyware that could potentially be monitoring, say, their online banking (not saying that RelevantKnowledge goes out of its way to do this, but the possibility still exists that it could report something a bit too personal).]]></description>
<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:06:32 -0400</pubDate>
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<title><![CDATA[By: Fubar]]></title>
<link>https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/plato-ipod-psp-3gp-converter/#comment-61437</link>
<description><![CDATA[#116, Phaedron, thanks for the amusing post.  Clearly, you're no lawyer.  There are no "differing powers".  There is no "opportunistic deception" here.  Clearly, you didn't read the EULA.  It's remarkably concise and clear for a EULA.  In fact, it's one of the shortest EULAs I've ever read (a single short paragraph).  Have you ever read a EULA by say, Microsoft, Adobe, Yahoo!, etc.?  You could die of old age before you finished.  This EULA didn't even try to hide the bad stuff near the end, like most do.  Anyone who even bothered to read the first sentence would immediately know that this was something different and potentially dangerous.  Don't make public posts trying to claim that you know something of the law, when clearly you don't.  Following is the EULA.  Note that it very clearly states that they are going to collect as much information about you and every other user of the same computer as they can, and match that information with every database that they can get their hands on.  It also clearly states that they are going to collect information about your hardware and software, and your use of any applications on your computer.  Are there some obfuscating phrases and sentences?  Of course.  But all the bad stuff is stated quite plainly.

"In order to provide this free download, RelevantKnowledge software, provided by TMRG, Inc., a comScore, Inc. company, is included in this download. This software allows millions of participants in an online market research community to voice their opinions by allowing their online browsing and purchasing behavior to be monitored, collected, aggregated, and once anonymized, used to generate market reports which our clients use to understand Internet trends and patterns and other market research purposes. The information which is monitored and collected includes internet usage information, basic demographic information, certain hardware, software, computer configuration and application usage information about the computer on which you install RelevantKnowledge. We may use the information that we monitor, such as name and address, to better understand your household demographics; for example, we may combine the information that you provide us with additional information from consumer data brokers and other data sources in accordance with our privacy policy. We make commercially viable efforts to automatically filter confidential personally identifiable information and to purge our databases of such information about our panelists when inadvertently collected. By clicking Accept, you acknowledge that you are 18 years of age or older, an authorized user of this computer, and that you have read, agreed to, and have obtained the consent to the terms and conditions of the Privacy Statement and User License Agreement from anyone who will be using the computer on which you install this application."]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 05:35:32 -0400</pubDate>
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<title><![CDATA[By: KsbjA]]></title>
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<description><![CDATA[@Spectere - that is, of course, true about the “NO ADWARE, NO SPYWARE”. But then again, maybe they were talking only about 'hidden' spyware and adware, that gets installed without you even knowing about it. Maybe they rely on the users and believe they will read what they are installing. Btw, I really think the novice users are more careful and they might even read the EULAS from the beginning to the end (rather than randomly clicking 'next, next, next, install'), while more experienced users usually just click Next. I am sure, if my mom (she's kinda a novice user) had to install something without my assistance, she would read all possible information before clicking anything at all.
Of course, there are different kinds of people. GOTD did their best to give users at least a choice. I don't say it's good to implement spyware. I don't say you have to read long EULAs. I just say, be careful with what you install.]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:15:46 -0400</pubDate>
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<title><![CDATA[By: Phaedron]]></title>
<link>https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/plato-ipod-psp-3gp-converter/#comment-61435</link>
<description><![CDATA[<b><strong>Note to Fubar</strong>: Thanks for your technical contributions, however, I detect that you're not anyone who works closely with the law.  Parties of differing powers are obviously not evenly matched and the law recognises this disparity and adjudges accordingly. Complex and lengthy EULAs that are recognised as unlikely to be fully read nor taken professional advice upon come into the same ambit.  The average punter needs remedies provided against opportunistic deception.

But, thanks again.]]></description>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 01:11:14 -0400</pubDate>
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<title><![CDATA[By: Spectere]]></title>
<link>https://www.giveawayoftheday.com/plato-ipod-psp-3gp-converter/#comment-61434</link>
<description><![CDATA[KsbjA: I agree with you to an extent, but the fact of the matter is that GAOTD, in this case, was dishonest with their "NO ADWARE, NO SPYWARE" claim with this download.  Most people who use computers don't want to learn about all the little intricacies.  They just want to be able to surf the web, check their e-mail, and manage whatever portable devices that they might have.

Most people know that malware is bad because they <i>heard</i> that it was bad.  My mother, for instance, knows that spyware is a Bad Thing(tm) but if I were to ask her what it did she wouldn't be able to give me a good answer.  When people see a banner from a fairly reputable site saying that something is clean they have a tendency to believe it.  Even if they did read through the license agreement they probably wouldn't understand the implications of it.

Face it, GAOTD dropped the ball on this offering.  I certainly blame them more than I'd blame the novice users who got burned by this.]]></description>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 23:05:05 -0400</pubDate>
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