#9 Trucker

Ever hear about Windows XP 64bit? Apparently not! It's been around for years and a lot of people including me use it just so you know!

Vista and 7 only? Eeeyuck...

I'm glad that so many on this Comments section are addressing the issue of the UP and DOWN votes on GAOTD. What I wish I understood is how, when it's very early in the morning,and most people are probably not even awake yet, that there can be several hundred votes already. I can't help but be influenced when I see something like today's UP and DOWN evaluation: 467 down and 181 up. I agree with all the commenters that it sure looks fishy, and especially because there is no explanation for most people's votes, especially the 'down' votes. Personally, I believe that only true evaluators who have DLd the program and used it should be able to vote on it, plus they should have to explain the reason for voting as they did. This is the only 'voting' that has validity and is helpful. Thanks anyway GOATD for offering all the free programs that you do. We appreciate your efforts, even if they are sometimes less than top notch. The effort is great. But please do fix the rating issue!!!

I wanted to try this, but since I have Windows XP I was excluded. :(

If anyone's interested there's a nice little discussion on the merits (or otherwise) of the GimeSpace Free XP VERSION over at

http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/i-love-free-desktop-extender.htm

Plus mention of some other similar freewares.

As for Mamory usage, today's offering appears to be quite modest, using only 3.6MB on my Win7 Netbook.

Sketchy. I don't think it's working right for me. I would like to scroll with only a key combination, as there are options for it, but it requires that I use my mouse if I want to use the key combination.

What this means is that when I use the scrollbar (fancy that, someone not using a scroll wheel on their browser... it's called a laptop, and spending 2 years with a broken touchpad that wouldn't let you use the "scrollstrip" on the side of the touchpad), I have to drag straight down. If I go to the right at all, my window will move.

I also couldn't use the Restore Windows function by right clicking the icon in my tray. Firefox didn't budge, and I had to manually realign it.

I'm happy with this little program thus far.

The program functions primarily out of its systray icon menu. Here you can choose the all-important 'Options' and also the Scrolling variables, along with a number of other parameters. With a bit of effort I was able to get the program to work the way I wanted it on my Win7 Netbook.

At last an answer to my frustrations with the small-screen Netbook which quite often hides important buttons needed for software operation.

Use the Scroll Lock key to lock the screen's position and use it to unlock the position when you need to scroll again. Otherwise the scrolling movement, whenever you inadvertently hit the screen edges with your cursor, will become annoying.

It's also useful for setting up two windows side by side on a small screen and scrolling side to side for easy access to each as/when you need to.

Use the systray icon to exit the program any time you want.



@13 Alda
At one time I was very puzzled by this too, but as our kindly longtime poster/helper 'mike' reminded me, a positive vote for a comment can result in an increase in the negative ratings (or vice versa) because other visitors are also continually rating comments since you last updated the page. The ratings are always changing so that's why your vote quite often appears to have the opposite result to what you intended.


@58 Chuck
Norton is quite bothersome at throwing up false alerts.
If you've time try passing the executable along to virustotal.com and see if its scanner picks up any threats, rather than discard a potentially useful software without trying it.

This is a really cool application! It's not very intuitive or easy to use, but after about half an hour of fiddling, I've been able to scroll through my now huge desktop with fairly accurately. Just be careful not to forget where your windows are! If I had Aero theme, zooming out to see my windows would be useful...

Unlike what some people have said, I find the Ctrl+Shift and Ctrl+Alt, etc. combinations to be easy to follow. Read the Readme! It's actually helpful!


All in all, it's pretty decent, and does what it says. I give a thumbs up!

Can't install. There is a .dll missing.

Never mind netbooks, useful as that is, today's GOTD is a great tool in any version of Windows that it will run in. Beats me that Microsoft never thought of this!

Installed this on Vista HP.

NIS triggered and alert and removed the gimespace.dll. I put it back in to see what would happen. The game installed and activated. Zemana AntiLogger started popping up alerts. I didn't block the program, again, just to see what would happen.

What happened was that a rectangular window popped up in the middle of my screen and started cycling ads, one of them for travel in Slovenia. I had to kill the process in Task Manager to get rid of it.

This program creates an entry in your Start Up programs list without giving you an option first about whether you want that to happen. When you delete the program, it still leaves a file in Program Files that you have to manually remove.

I don't like that it's adware and I don't like the difficulty I had getting rid of it. It is definitely a no-go for me.

One thing I did learn, though, for those of you on laptops who don't have a scroll lock button on your physical keyboard, is to bring up your on-screen keyboard and it will have the scroll lock button on it.

I check GOTD every day from FB. Sometimes the give-away interests me, sometimes it doesn't. I don't pat attention to the thumbsup/down any more because it is used by people like #24. I form my own opinion.

I feel the TsUP or TsDOWN should only be available to people who download AND activate the product.

To many nimrods hit the T-D because the item doesn't interest them..THAT'S NOT WHAT IT'S FOR DIPSTICKS! Can't you read the words just to the left of the thumb voting??! "USER" ratings...jeez get a clue.

I have installed AND tried several products from GOTD and never had the problems of crashing, not restarting or anything else for that matter. Every DL has preformed as described. It's just some of them I realized weren't for me, so I uninstalled them.

I like this giveaway, I will use it, not often, but I've got it when I will need it.

Peace...

This regards the thumbs up/down quandary. I have an alternate suggestion, b/c I fear making people comment before rating may also cause problems. How about adding a third category...for the #24 types. That 3rd category would be "Not Interested" (or something similar). I don't know which way the thumb would go...sideways?

That way, there should be no confusion for anyone, including new visitors to the site, about what they are rating. Just thought I'd throw that out there as another option.

OK, it free here but for $24.95 software it shouldn't crash on start on Vista 32bit, right? Thumbs DOWN!!!

This software is incredibly counter intuitive. The help is not useful unless you have the patience of an angel. Nice try but needs to be simpler.

In response to 52 and 56 (Chuck),

I like the idea of two systems. Popularity is definitely a good indicator for the production teams. However, it would be nice to have a secondary, thumbs up and down, indicator available to those that actually take the time to test the product and write in their comments.

That said, alas, I have no comment today on the product as my screen is plenty large enough (62") and I have no useful apps. My thanks to GOTD.

AltDrag freeware does this. A must for NetBooks.
Works with XP, which is still the most widely used operating system.

. . . and now, I restart again and am immediately faced with a screen offering me the choice of paying 24.99 or entering a "trialpay activation code".

Yes, I activated prior to installing with the activate.exe program as usual for GAOTD programs.

At what point to we agree that the program actually does deserve the 73% disapproval rating, and that the thumbs up/down system is actually performing as intended?

1) Installed, and didn't give me any indication that it had installed successfully.
2) tried to start using start menu shortcut.
3) Program immediately crashed computer, couldn't shut down, was forced to reboot.
4) rebooted, immediately warned by AVG of an unknown "threat detected" for GMS32.EXE. Move to Vault recommended.
5) Started to try to use it, saw no immediate effect. Had other things to do, so I tried to close it down, figuring I would play with it later. It then started to close applications, and crashed Skype.


Virus alert, multiple install problems, crashed other programs. i obviously am not really thrilled with the product from what I see.

But I can't really say that I used it, or that I am a "user" as set forth above. Am I allowed to vote up/down or leave a comment? I ask because the forum above seems to be much more interested in debating the proper use of the voting system rather than the actual software. By doing so, and essentially negating the worth of the forum in the process, you are guilty of the same behavior that you all are complaining about.

Downloaded the free, XP version (only scrolls horizontally) & it does what it says. Minimal memory usage.

Just not sure what it does for me? I can lay windows side-by-side, & scroll (horizontally) from one to the other. And ... like ... so?

Collect Windows, collects ALL windows, not just that are "offscreen".

Not sure what it does for me?

Sometimes, as you get towards the screen borders, I'll get inadvertent window movements, but that is what the program is supposed to do, but still, at the time it occurred, it was unwanted by me.

(Different program mentioned above is a virtual desktop manager, different from what this does.)

The adds are from a company called bespotted

Why do I now have a add banner on my screen that I can't get rid of? Please help. I opened the program and clicked on the user interface where the add was and now I cant get rid off the thing.

XP SP3
v3.0.8.21

GAOTD Activate.exe presets the registration key
Setup.exe is the program itself


from what i can gather (as i'm running XP) ...

it looks like a clean install, 1.5 MB, in one directory

has a readme.txt, but no "help"

looks to have separate parts for 32 vs 64-bit applications
(with the associated note of problems with IE64)

(about as much as i can say, ATM)

I am not interested and will not download, so I will not rate. But, I have read all the comments and most of the questions and complaints can be answered by going to the developer's website and then into his FAQ. Even the anti-virus warning is explained.

Here's a direct link: https://sites.google.com/site/gimespace/faq

This is a good and useful utility. Works fine on my Vista and Win7 32 machines. Agree with 15 about really bad registration for paid users. Hope I don't need to reinstall - had problems with Digital River before. developers really should pay attention to these complaints of paying users.
Anyway, recommend in spite of Digital River...

Works fine on my 64bit Win7.

I don't have a use for it though. Meh. Thumbs up anyways :D

@#32
Did you notice this is a one-man-project? Regarding this, it's an even more amazing piece of software. There IS actually a reason for developing this tool for XP and that is because there are still too many XP netbooks around as to ignore them.

@#44
You didn't read posting #10, did you?
In fact, the direction DOES matter, since on a netbook you have 1024 pixels horizontally, which is enough most times, but you have only 600 pixels vertically, which is often NOT enough to even get some apps started.
On a netbook, try to reach for instance the OK button of such an app or to start such an app.
Try these two actions WITHOUT today´s tool and then WITH it.
Then you (hopefully!) see the point in using this tool.

@#49
Have a look at postings #10 and #20.
There you see why the free version is insufficient.

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For all of you who do not understand the purpose of this tool:

The point in developing this tool is the missing 168 vertical pixels on a netbook,
where you don't have the option to switch over to another resolution in order to reach some sections of a window bigger than the screen is able to display.

Norton gave me an alert on installation saying: gimespace.dll contained threat suspicious cloud.7.L anyone else see this (hopefully) false positive???


Chuck

With regard to XP and today's GOTD as well as some other comments, I use and love Win 7 having been a great XP supporter, but there is a learning curve involved in changing, and many people's computers won't run Win 7, as having incompatible hardware. I had to replace a perfectly good scanner and a graphics tablet on upgrading from Win 7 because of no Win 7 drivers for them.

Many people retain XP as their computers won't run Win 7 or even if they could, can't afford to upgrade, so please can we not have commentators slating XP users, many of whom have no choice in the matter!

Given the very high number of people who are still on XP and unlikely for one reason or another to be able to (or in some cases not wanting to) upgrade to Win 7, commercially - it most certainly IS viable for software companies to continue to support XP with their products.

Today's GOTD though, working on the Windows shell for Win 7 would need a complete rewrite to work with XP, as the OS shells differ considerably between the two OSs, hence the lack of an XP option.

I'm glad that the topic of the user ratings has been brought up. I wanted to post about this for some time, but have been unable to get logged on to the forums and I wasn't sure that this was the place to briing it up. but since the ice has been broken...

I think part of the problem is that the rating scheme is too simplistic (besides the fact that there are fools playing with it to their own nefarious ends).

I think a poll-like form asking ratings on things like: installation, easse of use, apllicability to the suggested task, user interface, cost, etc. Yes, I did include cost, even though I don't use that for my own determinations. I think that vendors deserve to get feedback on cost even though WE aren't paying.

I believe that having a finer grained evaluation method would be more valuable for vendors and GOTDers alike. at least if something is universally panned because it is "too expensive" we could see that in the results and factor it in or out for ourselves.

I realize this will be a bit more work for us, the evaluators. It may also be a *lot* more work for the GOTD website implementors. For this reason I volunteer to work with website implementors to help come up with a easy, quick, and useful, automated evaluation system

That's my $0.02. what say ye???

Best Regards,
Chuck Brotman

I have been visiting this site for years and I am tired of having people post negative post on the offered software when it is not for their system..If this is for win 7 and not for xp then why does someone with xp give their opinion when it is stated in the description that it is NOT for xp.Over half of the negative votes dont make sense...374 negative votes and 140 positive...where are the reasons for the negative votes listed ..If I come out with a part for a ford truck why would I want input from a chevy owner???A large percentage of the negative votes come from problems on the persons computer and not with the software...this review system needs to be reviewed...will someone now be offended that a free program is not for their system....I can see from the above comments that others also are tired of a bunch of lame comments without any FACT

I loaded GiMeSpace Desktop Extender 3D v3.0.8.21 and I'm not stupid but this program makes me feel that way. I have no idea how to even use it at all. Talk about intuitive use, this is cryptic use. I eventualy got it to scroll windows horizontally, but thats it.

I'm unable to activate. Keep getting the message "Failed to connect. Please try again later." when I run Activate.exe.

REGARDING THE RATING SYSTEM:
Provide 2 different ratings, distinguished by color coding--

* One score for popularity or desirability (this should capture the Johns on the list and actually is good feedback for developers when they market to their target audience)

* One score for technical merit (this is for users and those with technical expertise who can evaluate software from experience (not necessary to download or activate, but at least provide valuable commentary)

I hope the GOTD team and the public support this 2-rating system...it's easier than changing people's habits and is less time-intensive than moderating all scoring! What's more, it provides even more valuable feedback to the developers (a value-add for GOTD).

@39 - not all software works in Win 7. Not everyone has the option to upgrade to Win 7 from XP. I still use XP Pro at home on both my desktop and my laptop. Why should I purchase Win 7 for my machines when XP works just fine? So I can try out a piece of free software? That really makes no sense.

I voted down for two reasons, i didn't see the point, but tried it anyway, too bad it crashes when I try to load in Win 7 Pro, 64 bit. Tried compatibility modes, still doesn't work. So double thumbs down for this one.

To all XP users

Here is a link to download the DeskTop Extender for Windows XP ...

I'm using it since four hours now, till now it's so good: free, fast loading, smooth, uses only 5.4 k of RAM, ... does only horizontal scrolling though - hoping that will be good for you as it's good enough for me.

GiMeSpace Free Edition 1.0.6.15 http://en.softonic.com/s/download-free-gimespace-desktop-extender/windows-xp

Salute

Well this software works WELL on my machine running Windows 7....so once again can't figure out why it got so negative ratings so far.

The reason why this tool is not compatible with XP is easily intuitable, since it's mainly meant for little netbooks users and almost all of them are sold running VISTA and above Windows 7 as OS nowadays: as simple as that!

Anyway, to extend their Desktop area, XP users may use the FREE version of this program without any hassle or better yet an extremely powerful FREE APP called "360Desktop" which has unfortunately been discontinued by his developer some time ago (but, despite that, it still works great on XP machines)!!!

As the name suggests, this tool literally turns your DESKTOP into a completely 360° circular work space!!!

WARNING: you need at least 512 MB of RAM to make it work smoothly!!


To download this app go here and click on the Download link:

http://360desktop.softonic.it/

On the Download area click on the link stating "download alternativo di 360desktop" and enjoy the software for FREE!

Demo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rOSgjNgSKU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAEfYqnAauY


As far as the SCREEN RESOLUTION issue is concerned, well if you have problems to fix it manually take a look at these amazing FREE TOOLS:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Other-Desktop-Enhancements/Desktoptopia.shtml

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Other-Desktop-Enhancements/Desktop-Resolution-Changer.shtml

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Other-Desktop-Enhancements/Screen-Mode-Switch.shtml


For instance, the first one mentioned above, provides an AUTOMATIC RESOLUTION DETECTION OPTION which automatically detects your resolution delivering you the appropriate sized desktop afterwards, according to your needs and hardware settings (so you don't need to lift a finger for that).

Cool, isn't it dudes?

Finally, if you prefer a MULTIPLE MONITORS approach on your PC Desktop but at the same time you are not willing to spend too much money for that, then the freeware tool "DEXPOT" is definitely the way to go:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Enhancements/Other-Desktop-Enhancements/Dexpot.shtml


Hope this helps.


Enjoy & Prosper!!

Even allowing for a small percentage of folks who jump on the same bandwagon as Johs @ #24 - a 74% thumbs down 24% thumbs up is enough to dissuade me from tryimg this out.

"Does not support XP" NOT the issue.. Sure, grumble about it, but that's the developer's choice. If you are going to complain, and vote thumbs down, because it doesn't support your favourite OS, then how about voting down ALL of them because they do not support Win 3.11?
If a developer CLAIMS support for, say, 98 SE, but doesn't actually HAVE it, you DO have reason to vote it down.

@34

I totally agree with you... I enjoy when people mention freeware alternatives to GOTD offerings. I don't look at it as a knock against the offered software, just as another option. I have found some real gems via user comments here.

This is very strange. If it is a virtual desktop screen, whether the direction is vertical or horizontal is completely immaterial.

#33 Totally agree, good things don't last forever, move on but be sure to avoid Vista.

I tried this in the past and I found that, for windows approaching screen size, there was not enough fine control to get the whole window on screen at one time, I always ended up with one edge or the other hidden.

You know, just look at the OTHER comments. People complain it doesn't support XP. Doesn't that deserve a thumbs down right there? Yet it'd be stupid to DL and install the program in such a case just to vote it down?

There's plenty of other reasons to vote something down without trying it. The price, the lack of features (for instance something that does one thing where a freeware program might do multiple), etc. etc.

There's also of course often cases where the comments would make people not want to DL in fear of spyware, or even just those programs that require an email address verification. More reasons.

By responding to people like #24 John, you are encouraging more of the same. Some people just live for leaving comments. Whoops, thats what I'm doing.
Personally, I read the comments, then check reviews of the product online before I download, try and then comment.

Now, ad hominem attacks are par for the course in the comments section I guess. I, for one, don't particularly want to hear from commenters who think theirs is the only world-view worth having and people who have a different view of things are "class-act morons" or "twats" or people with "lack of responsibility". I wonder what those comments have to do with the software being offered, and why they are not being moderated out. Why waste time moderating comments if such personal attacks are allowed in the comments. Is there a hidden agenda here?

Some are complainint about this not supporting XP. Why would anyone after knowing how much better Windows 7 is, why not just upgrade? Just my 2 cents worth. I really like how this works. Kinda strange seeing the whole screen move over like it was on a carasel. Anyhow, this one is worth the downloaf!!

@ John #24 "Can you lot not get it in to your heads that voting thumbs down does not mean you have had to try the software. " Oh dear! Well everything is clear. C'mon GAOTD, do something clever and spare us from the likes of this kind of insanity! Just puts me in a bad mood thinking there are such people involved in Anything. One wonders why such insane governments get elected? Wonder no more! It's John @ work!

GOTD - A SUGGESTION

"The reason there are so many negative votes is that so many people out there give a thumbs down to software if they don’t want the software, they don’t realise that they are supposed to be voting on the quality and functionality!!!"

Simple fix - don't let people vote until they have activated the SW.