PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE... GAOTD....can you please add some form of health warning to any future offers which,like EAZ-FIX,dramatically alter your OS.
Levels of computer literacy vary enormously and many are seduced by such simple pitches as "Don’t waste your time troubleshooting PC problems, instant undo your PC problems with EAZ-FIX!"
I am not knocking the program itself,it may suit many and do exactly what it says,but I'll wager that there are a barrel load of innocents out there spending their weekend trying to backpedal out of a situation they never appreciated they were getting themselves into.
Personally I knew what I was getting into and would never have tried it without the insurance of an Acronis image to fall back on and which I eventually used.
A post EAZ-FIX plea.
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Bettersafethansorry
MemberPosted 16 years ago # -
BillW50
MemberWhat kind of problems are you having with EAZ-FIX, Bettersafethansorry? I installed it on 5 computers yesterday and I am glad I did. The only one that didn't work on was an old Toshiba 400MHZ Celeron running Windows 2000. But that is ok, it is an old machine ('99 era) anyway. It errorred and said the drivers couldn't load when rebooted. I uninstalled it and everything is back to normal. The other 4 are doing fine.
Posted 16 years ago # -
Bettersafethansorry
MemberBillW50
I did not have any actual problems with the installation or the running of the program - its just that I was not happy with the changes which it was apparently making to the boot files and also with the system restore and defragmentation processes.
When I tried an Acronis recovery from within windows and was getting the message that Acronis did not recognize any of my drives I decided that enough was enough and could live without the hassle but still had to boot off the Acronis boot disk to access and restore my external image.
The point I was trying to get across was that there must be many,judging by the "comments" who have got sucked in not appreciating just what they were getting into.
I know in my own case that I created a system restore point prior to installation (belt and braces) only to discover that after uninstalling the program that system restore had been turned off all all restore points lost - just a bit scary for those who may have thought that this was just another program to install and uninstall again if you did not like it.Posted 16 years ago # -
BillW50
MemberYes you should *not* install EAZ-FIX if you also use Acronis, GoBack, Linux, etc. But if you don't have no such software and have a need for one, this one does very nicely. When you first extract the files (C:\EAZ-FIX), there is a document folder with lots of useful information you can read before running the setup.exe file.
Posted 16 years ago # -
ukprimaryteacher
MemberHi,
Well, this has definitely shaken my confidence in GAOTD. I've installed the program and my system hasn't been the same. I'm not computer savvy. I don't have an IT degree either. But I do know that I've decided to take the program off. But, between installing and now, I've discovered that System Restore was shut off. I haven't backed up in about a month. If I try to uninstall, am I going to get the BSOD?? What about my Norton 360 which optimises my disks is that going to be affected as well?
Basically, I want someone to tell me what I can expect when I uninstall, and how to fix it before I try to "back-peddle."
I think this will be the last download I get. I've done about 20 of them. I think this will be the last. I can't afford the time and the frustration.
I hope someone will be kind enough to help!
UkprimaryteacherPosted 16 years ago # -
BillW50
MemberWell ukprimaryteacher, I have installed over 500 GAOTD programs so far. :-)
What worked for me uninstalling was telling EAZ-FIX to roll back to the baseline (installation). Then reboot and hit the HOME key and roll that one back too. As this second step will remove the MBR (Main Boot Record) modification.
But since you run Norton 360, I don't know how that one works and you might have a problem uninstalling EAZ-FIX? As EAZ-FIX could have messed up Norton 360 MBR, if it modifies it.
It is hard to give you step by step directions. As it all depends what happens through each step. And by the way, I have 5 computers here and I never had to reformat and start over since 2001. And I don't plan on ever doing it ever again either. And those who do, I believe they could have saved their system and didn't have to do that.
Posted 16 years ago # -
RunesageMagik
MemberOP ED
IMHO, the problem goes far beyond GAOTD. As computer prices fall, Internet access extends its reach and primary developers create quasi user-friendly shells and autoupdaters that give a false sense of security to the computer illiterati, most newbies and even a fair number of semi-computer literate consumers are now exposed to far more opportunity to damage their systems than ever before.
NOBODY of sound mind should come to a site like this and explicitly trust free offers or ease of use claims. Too many approach this as nonchalantly as they do opening a peanut butter jar lid and sticking a spoon inside. Maybe 95% of the time, no problems occur; but thanks to the increasingly deep system integration by today's programs and the eagerness with which lower tier developers incorporate every cutting edge script and applet, the remaining 5% are going to suffer as if their computers were allergic to peanut butter.
Download sites can post disclaimers, and comment pages provide anecdotal evidence of problems (often the result of people installing stuff without knowing what they're getting into), but how many arrive early in the day and download without waiting to see what negative comments might show up? Trouble is, every day we see evidence of people who don't even bother to read the SIMPLE 3-line README files before installing software, or who don't bother to read the FORUM Stickies before posting exactly the same thing someone posted 10 minutes before, much less stop and THINK before daring to install something as intrusive and potentially destructive as a Registry "cleaner". If people who only have a learners permit are foolish enough to drive onto a formula 500 race track, they are likely to suffer painful accidents.
It's a learning process, even for GAOTD. I think as time goes by, GAOTD will increase the safeguards as best they can, perhaps by asking the developers for assurances that a program doesn't do something STUPID like disable System Restore or hijack homepage settings, not without posting very clear advisories. OTOH, users simply cannot expect these developers to test their creations' compatibility against the millions of combinations of OS, browsers and peripherals now on this flattened earth. Blame Gates for abrogating his promise of standardization, and for creating a monster that, rather than better segregating and isolating files and operations, allows them to mingle and clash in ways that trigger all sorts of unintended consequences.
Posted 16 years ago # -
goodgotd
MemberBillW50
Hey! that could be me!
"old Toshiba 400MHZ Celeron running Windows 2000. But that is ok, it is an old machine ('99 era) anyway"
I'm typing this on a '99 gateway p-3m 450 laptop running win2k- and like 3 of my 4 computers on my lan, it's dual-boot win98. Tangle that up with a linux preloader and things would have been... bad.
I use this for browsing, email (data files on an Athlon XP), VoIP, ebook reading- It's a valued workhorse for all it's present-day lack of stature. I know people who can't afford to replace Celeron 366 desktops yet, and the thought of them trying to untangle eaz fix or it's different named twins appalls me.
I tend to agree, this one was scary- and came real close to messing my main system up, and I'm no virgin user by a long shot- though frankly I don't really see how the gaotd team could have known that from the easily-accessed info, as the homepage given tried hard to make it sound like there was no danger, just miracles in a box.
The landmines were buried layers deep.
Posted 16 years ago # -
Sometimes I question whether I should say anything or not. Before the giveaway had even started, I knew how it would "turn out" for many users.
I never even considered downloading it. Programs that do what they do through non-standard undocumented backdoor tricks will always play havoc with other system utilities that are written to play by a defined set of rules.
I managed to find out just in the nick of time, a friend was having all sorts of problems - and I suggested just to uninstall and don't go any further. We discussed the possibility of a giveaway alert type of posting - letting those who are less than "self professed guru status" know that installing this program is likely to cause a few hours of missed sleep, hair pulling or possible worse.
Of course the decision to go ahead and install is always left to the individual - it just seems that some drivers never see the sign warning that the bridge over the river is out.
Posted 16 years ago # -
Robert
StrayCatYou sure have an eloquent way of commenting,BuBBy.
This program has its charm though.
Making snapshots in raw data.Very unique.But as a consequence defraggers are blocked because they would overwrite the existing data..But it copies a TSR(Windows loading portion) to the Mbr.
The fact that programs are interfering in MBR and incompatibilities should be mentioned by the company in the general introduction.Posted 16 years ago # -
goodgotd
MemberI was saved by that phantom space in the key box, myself.
I know others that I'd recommend eaz fix to, aside from the m$ WinXP style hard drive serial # and internet server activation- if it just used a reg code and didn't phone home, people with simple single-os, never defag anyway, kids mess up the systems (or install stupid stuff) could save a lot of pain with it. And I know a bunch of them.
Some I gave them the computers in the first place, ones I was given to pass on, plus bits I didn't need anymore. (anybody want a quart ziplock of 30 pin memory?)
But then, that's one reason I'm fighting not to run XP- call me a pirate if the m$ servers go down, or I upgrade my system?
Bullmaulk.
I'd rather *be* an honest pirate than be accused that way.
Posted 16 years ago # -
The fact that programs are interfering in MBR and incompatibilities should be mentioned by the company in the general introduction.
The problem is- that would scare off users and weaken the image they are trying to portray that "this software will fix absolutely any mess you can get into without you even needing to know what you are doing". (of course I am paraphrasing their press release - but the same intent is there).
Someone posted a few days ago
"I think the mix commenter/moderator is a poor one. It is confusing the least to see a moderator comment negative on offered software. A commenter can freely express opinions but is a moderator not supposed to at least somewhat support software offered? Or need I assume within GOTD there are some doubts about offered software?"
Well firstly, "No". If software is really bad, I'll say so. Obviously a lot of users who never visit these forums don't realize that I am not commenting or speaking on behalf of GOTD, but (try to) represent views and concerns of regular users (being of that species myself).
So perhaps it would be appreciated if someone with a "Geek Rating" above 9 could post a friendly opinion/warning that some giveaways (such as yesterdays) as "best left alone for some users". Otherwise the comments page could get quite a bit more "colorful"
Besides, nobody wants to end up after trying some software, being faced with a rebuild/reinstall (especially if you have never done one of those before, either).
Posted 16 years ago # -
LeKanaw
MemberHi Mister B.
You know, I almost PM'ed you yesterday, asking for advice. Then I thought you really don't need any more people bothering you, you have enough to do already.
Was hoping to see an "intervention" in the comments page, there was a lot of craziness going on there...
So I just decided I'm too green - thankfully didn't dwld to any of my computers.
But for a while there, I was tempted...The lack of transparency from the company, or the reseller, or whatever..., didn't sit right. There are a lot of newbies like me around here.
But at least I know what I don't know, and tend to not take unnecessary risks!
Unfortunately, some ppl go loopy when they see the word *Free*.So yes, in these cases I think it would be GREATLY appreciated if u post some kind of *warning* to advise of the heightened risk level. I know you can't tell ppl not to dwld, and some will crash the car no matter how many or how big the road signs.
But the reasonable newbie, will have the opinion of a Trusted Adviser.Peace, Manu
Posted 16 years ago # -
Robert
StrayCatIt IS a fact most people associate you directly with GAOTD and find it rather hard seeing you as professional user giving a honest opinion instead.
Also IMHO the warning should be put 'mildly'.Otherwise one scares too many people and that would go against the distributing strategy of the GAOTD team,I suppose.
Not to mention the companies who will not appreciate it,even if they get...Posted 16 years ago # -
LeKanaw
MemberBubby:
... he isn't responsible for fishing them out of the river
Yeah ;-)
But still, I know it can not be pleasant for u, to have to deal w that kind of abuse. It never is. It amazes me sometimes, the lack of courtesy and utter stupidity of some ppl in the front pages.
Sometimes I do scream at the screen [like that helps :-)] and just want to take out the sword and slay some of them.
Your patience is remarkable!!!!!@Robert:
That Bubby is or is not associated/close to/part of GOTD, is *NO* excuse to insult him, is it? That he is honestly trying to help, is to be thanked.Peace, Manu
Posted 16 years ago # -
copmom
MemberOne thing I've learned is to first read all the feedback in the comments sections and forums and NOT to automatically download everything that's offered just because it's 'free'! YES BuBBY.. if you suspect there's going to be difficulties.. please do let us know! Perhaps put a disclaimer on the main page, such as "use at your own risk"!
If it sounds like there 'might' be some problems, I'm not taking a chance messing my machine up. So I'm thankful I didn't download this one.. and have taken note of the various alternative programs people have mentioned in case I do need to back up or whatever.
As long as y'all keep on discussing the pro's and con's to the various offers, I'll take care to watch what happens.. and I don't mean install problems, or things like that. GGOTD can't possibly know all about each program offered by the developers and they can't be blamed if something goes wrong. They are trusting that the companies offering them are providing a good product. If enough of us complain to the developer about what's wrong with their program, perhaps they'll fix it so it's user friendly to all of us!
Posted 16 years ago # -
LeKanaw
MemberRobert,
Don't really know what you meant, but we are very protective of *our* Bubby (not he needs our protection), as he works tirelessly helping everybody, always going above and beyond.
And we *really* like him a lot!!
Being new to the Forum, maybe u didn't know any of this.Don't see what is there not to like that he is willing to tell it like it is about a sw or a company. A company that makes crappy sw, doesn't have a leg to stand on. And if nobody tells them, their products wont get better.
Peace, Manu
Posted 16 years ago # -
LeKanaw
MemberHi there CopMom,
I've been looking into this kind of sw for a while.
Have arrived at the conclusion nothing beats Acronis True Image.
Some ppl prefer Ghost, but after reading a lot, I go w what Gizmo recommended.
If u have a Seagate HD, it's free. I have some good links for some great reviews, if u need.Hope ur feeling better.
If there are any more news, let us know, alright??
Manu {{{{{{ More Hugs}}}}}Posted 16 years ago # -
Hey guys, I really appreciate the support, and Robert, no I didn't take offence. I understand that for many people they could view me as part of the GOTD Team - because I can moderate posts/forums. But that is about as far as my personal or professional involvement goes. I wasn't even invited to last years Christmas party (I admit the airfares might've cost more than the party itself).
Even GOTD isn't "responsible" for the software - if there is a problem - they can't rewrite the program - it still has to go back via the distributor. This is why instead of instant fixes - we see a "rerun" a week or two later.
People are very quick to criticize the Giveaway team who I believe do a great job under some fairly tight conditions. Next time you hear someone criticize the Team, or another user, or even myself - ask yourself "and how would they know". Most people are just whinging out of their hats.(damn that intelli-censor).
I saw maybe last week, we had a day with no GOTD on offer. This was actually because GOTD hadn't received the giveaway in time from the supplier. Some people were critical of GOTD but it was not their fault.
The GOTD Team often seem to run on small lead-times between receiving the program and it going live on the site. To expect a team to install and master 14 programs a week to find and know about all the issues and bugs, and warn all the users before they download isn't really that practical. If we see a stinker of a program on GOTD (or a game) usually the user comments tend to drive the tone - and any positive words the developer was hoping would spread following the giveaway will be TD.
And I think yesterday someone mentioned "Where is BuBBy. He knows the answers" or similar. Well I was out... and I don't. Most days I don't get to find out what the giveaway is until everyone else does. So we begin the learning curve at the same time. Sometimes if I get a chance - I might check a few hours earlier (no I do NOT tell) - which might mean that I can do a little bit of reading about the program - maybe find some reviews, look for equivalent type programs, so I can answer questions - but the giveaway download start and finish is the same for me as everyone else.
As the new user named "BetterSafeThanSorry" might suggest - don't rush in to be the first to download, first to post, first to crash and burn. If in doubt - wait until at least maybe 5 or 6 hours into the giveaway, when a number of quality comments have been made. Then decide from those if this is a giveaway that you a) need, and b) is within your pc skills to install and maintain.
Read everything you can before you install. Don't rush. Remember to backup important files. Remember none of the programs come with any warranty or support. (in regard to warranty - most purchased software has no warranty either).
(Oh and "moderator" is not the same as "tech support". Just lucky there are some moderators who will spend a few hours trying to fix or resolve a problem for you, because they know what it means to be in a mess and not know how to get out of it).
I can't think of anything else to say... except don't throw sticks. You'll take out somebodies eye. (and always say please and thank you).<- My mum made me put that bit in.
Posted 16 years ago # -
goodgotd
MemberWhat he said. Ya, YouBetcha.
Download, unzip, very soon after it's available. (Gotta take meds at midnight, then wait 30 minutes for the RLS stuff to kick in anyway)
Usually update the saved text of the comments made on the previous giveaway, look over the readme.txt and root around the author's site, trying to find a version history, how-to's, plug-ins, etc.
Or at least a version number- like daymate, v6.23.
and then fall asleep.
(I've given up looking on the game giveaways, 90+% seem to be 1.0)
But installation?
Usually about noon here, ~12 hours in, so as BuBBy says, I won't be the first to crash and burn. Usually if a new activate.exe , install tip or download is needed, it's up too.
besides, 5 am is when cobian backs up the system, so I have a 'restore point' to fall back on... <g>
Posted 16 years ago # -
Bigun
MemberI think that several things are being missed here. I will try to mention a few.
GOTD does have several responsibilities to the visitors to its website. Failure to meet those responsibilities may not result in a stoning, legal action, or a shooting. I have never participated in the first two of these and I could be tempted to join in if the injustices became large enough.
If responsibilities are glossed over, this is what will happen. GOTD's core of frequent visitors will drop off sharply. There will be short periodic rebounds of activity on the website. The rebounds will start becoming farther apart and less intense. GOTD may think that the rebounds are signaling a resurgence in confidence of the readers and happy days are just around the corner. I have followed several companies go through this cycle. In every case the company borrowed money to get their website and inventory ready to respond to a high volume of sales and the ability to give promises of same day shipping - "all items are in stock". All went belly-up. Long term friendships and even longer term marriages were broken. I one case, a ruined reputation ended in suicide. Of course this would never happen to GOTD and its partners in enterprise.
Those resurgents of activity were due to intermittent rewards given in a conditioned response environment. Intermittent response works with human behavior just as well as it does with rats - 100% of the time. 100% of the time - not "9-times out of ten". The "intermittent" rewards could be made up of "sometimes a good prize"; "sometimes a bad prize"; "sometimes no prize"; "sometimes responsible behavior"; "sometimes irresponsible behavior"; "sometimes recognizing comments by website users and doing something about them"; "sometimes saying nothing and doing nothing". Get the idea? Sure you do. And, you don't have to be a bad person to get caught up in the above. "Fatigued, lazy, too many irons in the fire, too lay-ed back, too much this and too much that". My own website is a case in point.
Now about "EAZ-FIX". In the old days of MS-DOS, Windows 3.1, and Windows for Workgroups, several programs were on the market that took "snap-shots" of the hard drive, CMOS, etc. They worked fine if you used the recovery disk in the same machine that made it. I thought "EAZ-FIX" to be similar to those programs of the past and to today's "Windows" own "System Recovery" program. Was there any obvious reason to think otherwise? This fall GOTD had "Systracer" - a program that takes snap-shots and works very well for me.
Should GOTD visitors read the comments listed under the day's offering before trying the program themselves? Most comments are made by people who have not even downloaded the program much less tested it. And, over half of the people making comments that have downloaded the program can not even follow the directions given in the "readme file". I will not go into the quality of the comments any further because I have major short-comings - that include spelling. I can't spell. I can't type well with one hand and I can't spell most 3-letter and greater words. Neither is likely to improve. But, I hope that the quality of the comments by myself, the other GOTD visitors, and especially GOTD improve.
What is happening is "bad,bad,bad". I say that tongue-in-cheek but realize there is some truth in the statement also.
BuBBy, I don't think that you should edit this one. There are no names called, behavior slammed, and hopefully no feelings hurt by what I have written. I truly mean to harm or shame no one. You can see that I know that I am no "first prize" or "blue ribbon boy" myself. If we see trouble coming lets warn one another. We need to be mindful of telling the truth. An untruthful comment about a virus, or CMOS eater, or BIOS poisoner can harm and embarrass a software author. I do think that if a program eats a boot track or "truly" harms my computer that I should tell about it after making sure that it is not me who is at fault.
Posted 16 years ago # -
If I wanted to edit anything, bigun it was that first bit - my eyes glassed over, it started with GOTD's responsibilitys and ended in divorce and somebody committing suicide. I'm not to sure what happened with rebounding website visitors, MS-DOS the fact that you cannot type, but you like systracer.
Perhaps I just have trouble understanding someone who thinks a little too much like I do. ;)
I was shocked to arrive on the scene, maybe 16 hours into a giveaway to see somebody had quoted a discussion that took place months prior - when the vendor required an email address to get a key. What was said, was said and at the time I believe we were right to illustrate the final outcome where users who signed up, received spam email.
I reacted and commented only in response to another user who claimed that his email address had "been sold". Of course this couldn't be proven - but either with the knowledge and consent of this company, or through covert means - our email addresses ended up in the hands of TBG ("the bad guys").
Now back to the most recent giveaway - there really wasn't any risk of this happening on this day, yet people seemed to be like a frenzied mob out for a lynching - they wanted to see someone hang. It was stupid. In fact it should never have been allowed to appear on the forums.
In this case the users were very wrong. If someone removed the comments, the mob (now foaming at the mouth) would be screaming garbage about censorship, and cover up, and (shudder) free speech.
So whether you are right or wrong, you will still get the same crazy mob who get an idea in their heads - and like the Borg collective lose any ability to think for themselves or operate outside of the mob.
I agree completely that when commenting either in support for or against a program - that you do your testing first, and you should also state any assumptions you are working under.
At the end of the day - the decision is always the users to make- either in the absense of information, the presence of incorrect information - or with good advice - to proceed or not is always the users to make.
Years ago I remember a saying. Free Advice is worth what you pay for it (ie. nothing). If you want professional advice - it is probably going to cost money.
If you follow bad advice on a webpage, I'd be suprised if there was a legal remedy. If you want a guarantee - pay a professional who will write up papers what the work will involve and provide you with a quote. Then if you accept the quote and the worker doesn't deliver what they said they would - THEN you may have a remedy for damages.
Unfortunately on sites like this, many users have no choice but to trust the opinions of others - to shape their own opinions. There are also some people who try to appear larger than life and more experienced than everybody else. These users seem to always have something (usually critical) to say about everything. There are others who don't actually have their own opinions - but have an opinion about other users and what they say. After a while hopefully people can make their own minds up.
Posted 16 years ago # -
RunesageMagik
MemberBubbyCo, just hoping that the random Geek will come by at the crack of midnight before all the early bird whiners arrive is risky. I realize that some downloaders won't agree with any reviews/ratings of even 70 geeks, and some will blow up their computers regardless how many warnings and bridge out signs are posted. Still, perhaps a partial solution would be to have a private conference board where a very limited few of the more computer & game savvy types (the LTA's - Lekanaw's Trusted Advisors) could be given a couple days advance notice for each program, time enough to consider it's strengths and weaknesses, and for Wabbit to compose timely Reviews. Then, they'd submit votes and observations about whether the software seems ("SEEMS"... no guarantees):
a) safe for newbies or potentially hazardous to PCs
b) good for kiddies
c) to make minor/major system demands
d) ??GAOTD would have the final say, and the feedback ratings would go in the box above the comments. The output would have to be of a fashion that doesn't scare away members OR potential developers (i.e., patterned after marketmaker stock analysts who give a HOLD rating to stocks they really think people should sell), but I think maybe the result would be fewer nasty comments and an overall higher score for a product. Although it might behoove the developers to authorize the distribution of unrestricted use appls to, say, 5 volunteers, they could simply provide a link to the full trial version or a package with a 5-day extinction trigger.
I nominate you, Wabbit and maybe the Bar&Grill guy for starters. There are others whose due diligence I'd trust, so none of the regulars should pout if your name isn't on the above short list.
Posted 16 years ago # -
Anonymous
Unregisteredeaz-fix denied access to windows system restore, even after I uninstalled eaz-fix.
I had to do the following to regain access to the Windows system restore service:
1. Click Start, Run, type: %windir%\help and press Enter to open the Help folder.
2. Click Start, Run, type: %windir%\system32 and press Enter to open the System32 folder.
3. Copy and paste the file secedit.exe into the folder System32; copy and paste the file secedit.chm into the folder Help.4. Click Start, click Run, type the following command and then press ENTER.
secedit /configure /cfg %windir%\repair\secsetup.inf /db secsetup.sdb /verbose
Then, I had to re-take "ownership" of %windir%\system32\Restore\rstrui.exe
via the file's properties / security permissions tab in winxp pro
then I executed %windir%\system32\Restore\rstrui.exe
and my system restore service was able to be restarted and is functional again.
I am still unsure if eaz-fix has been completely uninstalled because the uninstall routine did not show me a progress bar, or any confirmation of uninstall.
Posted 16 years ago # -
I don't think (this is just me speaking) they would go with a preview. I suggested that for Wabbit and Bladed Thoth that perhaps giving them a 24 hour notice they could better try the software and produce a review in more detail. I don't think it is a serious risk that people (willing to write reviews or support users nearly every day) would divulge what the upcoming giveaways were.
The 5 days in advance I think might be a little optimistic. Even if there was a guaranteed 12-24 hours notice for reviewers would be better than nothing. Also it would help when the reviewer might not actually see the software 6 hours into the giveaway (because of where they live and time zones).
Posted 16 years ago # -
RunesageMagik
MemberI just pulled the "5 day" rule out of my hat because I can blink and see 4 days disappear. The 12 to 24hr head start would likely suffice.
See, I knew I'd inadvertently omit someone (Bladed Thoth) who should be amongst the top tier conscripts. Probably a bunch more that my crack team of personal memory assistants will bring to your attention shortly. :-)
Posted 16 years ago # -
ukprimaryteacher
MemberHi Vilulf,
I appreciated what you've written, it sounds like it might be helpful. Thanks again for being supportive. I just have one question: 1. Where you've typed "secedit /configure /cfg %windir%\repair\secsetup.inf /db secsetup.sdb /verbose" are there suppose to be spaces in this line?
Again, thanks for the effort of putting that information up.
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