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Please use a legitimate email address

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  • Started 5 months ago by Bigun
  • Latest reply from RunesageMagik

  1. Bigun
    Member

    Two big gripes. At least they are "big" for me. Both recur with too frequent regularity.

    Background: I only have the use of one hand.

    Gripe 1: "email address"; I type my heart out and push the "submit" button. error message "Please use a legitimate email address". All is erased > I push the "back" button > and I have a blank page.

    Speaking to the above - Be It Known that my email address is legitimate

    Next verse, a lot like the other one, I type this comment, I spell check it, grammar check it, proof read it --and, stop right there with the "proof read it". I think I spot a mistake. I flip to another page in the browser and back again. you guessed it right again, "a blank page".

    Thank you very much,

    Bigun

    Posted 5 months ago #
  2. The function (as much as we all hate getting stung by it) is probably just a part of how this particular template works. I will certainly be only too happy to pass the report onto the Giveaway Project Team.

    I am more than certain - this "feature" was not "introduced" to annoy users - and I doubt it was directed at any particular individual.

    The best way to get results is to simply state the problem in a friendly, professional manner without attempting to lay blame or threaten revenge. (I will edit your message, so it can be considered as a serious request, and not ignored or deleted). I have had the same happen to me occasionally - and yes, it is very frustrating.

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  3. Lockett
    Member

    So...BuBBy's the one behind the deletion of my post. He owes everyone an apology for that!

    Posted 5 months ago #
  4. Everyone, I apologize for Locketts post. :)

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  5. FreewareFan
    Member

    :-)

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  6. RunesageMagik
    Member

    Bigun - even us two handed 80+wpm types run into similar problems. Many sites use input forms that don't retain data once you're passed on to the next page. (meaning when you realize you forgot or mistyped something and hit the back arrow, the form's either empty or you get a web page expired message). Having watched hundreds of longwinded messages evaporate over the years, as well as just to reduce redundant keystrokes, my SOP is to -

    a) type/dictate whatever I want to say onto a blank txt file scratch pad, then copy/paste it to an input form when done. I rarely type directly into a forum message block. History's proven it's too easy for me to end up writing a novel (like this is becoming) that would disappear should I absentmindedly click the back arrow to recheck something or mistakenly close the wrong browser window (I usually have 10+ windows open at once and all those little X boxes look alike at 3AM). If I paste finished text and then decide to tweak it, I still click SELECT ALL and copy it just before hitting SEND. That, too, has saved a lot of anguished screaming and headbanging.

    b) create several encrypted txt files and putting shortcuts to them on my desktop. Each contains frequently used aliases, email addresses and passwords. (backup copies are maintained, and I don't put all data on one file to guard against hackers) I just copy/paste rather than hoping I correctly type the same stupid access info 10 times a day. Keep each entry (alias, email address, password) on a separate line with no trailing spaces so you can double click to highlight and copy/paste.

    I experimented with autofillers, but felt that opened security holes, and trying to remember acronyms or Alt key commands for each entry was a nonstarter. WordStar and VisiCalc still give me nightmares.

    In your case, it sounds as if dictation software and the above tips could provide you with a major accessibility boost as well as significantly reduce frustrations. Good luck.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  7. goodgotd
    Member

    thanks, bubby, for removing my intemperate remarks. again, mea culpa.

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  8. goodgotd
    Member

    I guess I will recap couple of things I think could help. Parts are very similar to RunesageMagik's, but my opinions differ. Your Milage May Vary.

    I fully agree, don't let the web page get ahold of your post until you have a scratch copy on the local machine, and then copy and paste.

    Reducing the amount of repeated typing as much as you can, anywhere you can is spot-on- put your email address and other stuff you use all the time in a text file, and copy and paste the information instead of fighting to type it in every time.

    I personally recommend RoboForm www.roboform.com, as a reasonably secure filler with a usable free version.

    For a plain text editor, I suggest MetaPad http://liquidninja.com/metapad/ to replace NotePad, as it's just plain better. It makes bringing recent files up easier, it has multiple level undo-redo, it handles bigger files.

    I'd love to find a voice-to-text program that works for me, and if one will work for you that could be a real help.

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  9. Bigun
    Member

    Thanks to all. I appreciate all of you taking notice of what I see as short-comings to some forum programs.

    My intention in writing the original comment was to call attention to two short- comings of some forum formats. Posting the edited comment may have been a good idea. And, I would not ask for the original. The weasel is out of the bag. However the edited comment appears to me to be more accusatory than I intended. The original edition was directed at the wiping out of remarks based on an "illegitimate email address". While I don't wish to post my email address, BuBBy can attest to the fact that there is nothing obscene or unusual about it. The second problem that I mentioned I see as legitimate complaint. Its primary function in this case was secondary. Yep, I know what I just said.

    My email address is based on an amateur radio call sign assigned by the Federal Communications Commission (F.C.C.). I had a copy of the erased comment and could have used that. Unfortunately my copy did not include the email address that was transmitted when I hit the "submit button". I don't know for sure what was transmitted. I do know that I get a similar error message through out many days.

    My copy of Dragon Naturally Speaking Preferred 9.x usually works well. If I leave the microphone active in between phrases, it will continue to go back through my dictation and "correct" parts of it. I can not proof read enough. I corrupted my Dragon installation around Christmas time and have not gotten it back to a usable state yet.

    I still use "WordStar's" non-document format for text editing.

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  10. goodgotd
    Member

    now I feel like a right idiot, giving low-tech advice to a master engineer. I never thought of basing n email on a call sign. I'm picking up a cheap (<$7 1st year) short (4 letter) .net domain to make mail address entry simpler for the increasing number of flash-based sites that RF can't 'see', but I guess that wouldn't help you.

    I'll look at dragon, it sounds like it might help. thanks.

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  11. After reading through the above once again, it's occurred to me that I don't actually have to type in my details (email etc). Once you have a forum login, and don't delete your browser cookies for this site - the comment form will recognise you and provide that info automatically. Then you only have to worry about typing your comment.

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  12. RunesageMagik
    Member

    Ah, there's the rub. Not much help for those of us who manually purge cookies, or use CCleaner and/or ATF Cleaner to keep datamining crumbs off our computers. Even the so-called cookie managers haven't been much help. Didja know that for a while in Dec at least, Yahoo login data was stored deep within the Macromedia Flashplayer folder? Microsoft writes backdoors into their programs so they can ignore certain blocks, and one can only wonder what results will come from the merger of Google with intrusive Doubleclick.com in the escalating war between privacy advocates and intrusive data collection.

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  13. ... or use CCleaner - go into options - cookies - and keep "giveawayoftheday.com"

    All other websites cookies should be deleted because their cookies have horrible ingredients that makes your skin go dry, and your hair fall out.

    In fairness security risks of cookies are greatly overstated by many who also believe the sky is falling (but if it helps you sleep at night - who am I to argue what you do with your cookies).

    Me? I use Spyware Blaster & Ccleaner for cleaning up - and I keep/protect the cookies from sites I regularly visit - and cookies from sites I don't care about, I wipe (daily). As I said, Your cookies, your choice.

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  14. RunesageMagik
    Member

    security risks of cookies are greatly overstated

    Similar reassurances are prominently displayed on the web sites of such people-friendly entities as Microsoft, Doubleclick and the NSA. :-)

    Selectively cleaning cookies can be a Sisyphean exercise for surfers who may visit 100+ sites per hour. There are situations when harmless cookies can have unintended consequences, cause irritating hassles or create an easy to follow electronic trail for those pesky congressional oversight committees. Persistent cookies can make it difficult to qualify for a second set of free steak knives after buying Acme Pimple Remover, or to vote twice for Uncle Lester in local elections. I only emphasize security concerns because it's in all the papers.

    Never call me Chicken Little without a water pistol in your hand.

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  15. goodgotd
    Member

    I prefer confusion over invisibility to confound the cookie elves using 3 computers, roboform, and a domain-based email setup that allows me to use a different email address for every site. My wife uses the fourth to *really* add a random factor!

    Then I use random-interval obliteration of all cookies, to keep 'em guessing.

    (as an aside, this allows me to know instantly which free-offer site sold my details to a spammer!)

    Add Firefox with NoScript used in 'temporarily allow' mode, deliberate power cycles of my DSL bridge to change IP's, and I hope I'm giving somebody headaches.

    Posted 5 months ago #
  16. Bigun
    Member

    I am glad to see that this thread has generated some comments. It has given me an opportunity to learn something about you folks. I have enjoyed getting to know you.

    I have been giving additional thought to the idea of editing comments. HUUUmmmmmmmmmm

    Posted 5 months ago #
  17. That's good. Hopefully that learnin' means you will stick around, and not leaving town. :)

    If I want to give someone headaches, I get a roll of aluminium foil and wrap it really tightly around my own head.

    I'm so deep undercover, My feet are poking out the other end.

    http://www.tucows.com/article/1938
    http://www.cookiecentral.com/faq/
    http://www.ilovejackdaniels.com/security/are-cookies-dangerous/ <- good explanation of "doubleclick" type cookies.

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  18. Lockett
    Member

    Does anybody remember the original Internet Explorer? Every time you visited a page, a dialog box popped up asking you if you wanted the site's cookies. You could always click "No".

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  19. goodgotd
    Member

    I'll give those cookie sites a deeper read later, as they appear to have some details I haven't refreshed lately (14 years of valium have left holes in my memory you could fly the space shuttle through- external tank, boosters and all), but one of the things (I start with the www.mvps.org hosts as a start) in all the hosts files are doubleclick.net, and when my high school DP teacher sent me a new 3CR858 router, the first URL blocking rule inserted was "block doubleclick.net from the LAN"- I thought that was cool indeed.

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  20. goodgotd
    Member

    Uhh, The fist time I saw IE, I couldn't run it- I was on OS/2 2.x at the time. By the time I was forced to install it, it wasn't that nice anymore.

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  21. RunesageMagik
    Member

    Lockett, a few of us remember! That was a long time ago, indeed.

    IMHO, it's misleading if not disingenuous to phrase the cookie debate - are cookies "dangerous" - because the facts make them sound innocuous. The bottom line is, guns don't kill people, people kill people. No wait, that's a different forum.

    In and of themselves, the vast majority of cookies clearly aren't "dangerous"; it was inevitable they'd be required by more and more sites for portal control and navigation. That said, I don't trust anyone, especially those who deal in data aggregations or ad serving. I realize that ad revenue is the backbone of commerce and the engine behind many sites, but dataminers can do powerful things with aggregated data. People lose more than just privacy when they give up rights. IMHO, the slippery slope began when people allowed dealerships to put corporate decals on new car trunks. :-) Democracies have become increasingly corrupt, intrusive, spendthrift because too many give away rights for false promises and free lunches. Companies are merging into monopolies struggling for control of your purse and of selective information dissemination. Greed and power have a way of interfering with triflings like ethics.

    Time and again, Yahoo demonstrates a habit of teaming with noxious characters, e.g. Aureate Media. They've allowed advertisers to take control of PC soundcards to blare ads, and they lead the charge to create increasingly distracting obnoxious in-your-face ad banners. Selective advertising based on flawed statistical analysis may mean efficient use of ad dollars to the seller, but it can also manipulate buyers' tastes, attitudes and points of view on many subjects, like social issues and politics. I resist manipulation. I dislike being pigeonholed, although I am pretty powerless to stop it. Not talking about fictional subliminal advertising. Right now, they still rely on brute force... 24/7 eyeball and ear bombardment. However, the psychology used to weave appeal into quack infomercials and spin doctored sound bites is only the tip of the iceberg.

    I don't trust sites with OPT OUT policies rather than than the more ethical OPT IN. Privacy policies themselves aren't worth the paper they're printed on, since most every one contains weasel words indemnifying the company and even abrogating in advance their responsibility for stored personal data should they be bought out.

    Remember, too, where there are static cookies, there may be active web beacons that actually phone home. Each time you click OK to a software agreement, you may unknowingly be giving it permission to send more and more info back to the hungry maw of datamining servers. Firewalls, web shields and even a Host file can do only so much to thwart the flow. Know thy computer contents, control thy computer contents. Once it's out there, you can't get it back.

    Bubby's unofficial cookie FAQ touched briefly on how technologies are gathering and sharing data. That computer in your car may eventually be used against you to void a warranty or jeopardize an accident claim. Your shopping history and medical history might be used against you in some future health insurance dispute. Makes for a very interesting discussion. Sadly, individuals have already lost most their privacy.

    Alea iacta est

    Posted 5 months ago #

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