There were many Blu-Ray softwares offered here from Aiseesoft, then there is Tipard Blu-Ray player today which looks identical to Aiseesoft one.
Tipard and Aiseesoft = same company?
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Posted 10 years ago #
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Wondershare, Aimersoft too. It's a chinese conglomerate.
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Interesting, didn't know and after a search I found this: http://stream-recorder.com/forum/shitty-vendor-review-low-quality-software-promoted-t6836.html?s=3ff4dba1f8c3cf83f901e4be7bf21553&
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Tipard and Aiseesoft = same company?
It's really hard to tell.
Do the coders get together in whatever forums & discuss how they write these video apps? Personally I figure there's a pretty decent chance that they do, but that's just from looking for whatever on Chinese sites using Google translate.
Do companies copy from one another? Everything I've read & stuff I've bought all say yes. Supposedly to some extent that's the nature of their culture -- after looking at the patent trolls in the US, & ultimately their effects on the consumer, I can't say it is or isn't a better way to do things. [Besides, if I did say I'd probably be violating somebody's patent. ;) ]
Software companies also license all sorts of code to other software companies. With (C) enforcement notoriously lax in China, there's little way for us to know if Aimersoft "borrowed" or licensed the code for their video editor [Friday's GOTD] from Wondershare, or if Aimersoft is a sister company with the same overall owner, or if it's Wondershare selling under two labels, which is common for American & Chinese companies.
Yesterday's Amersoft video editor is almost identical to Wondershare's -- AFAIK the only Real difference was that Aimersoft's was on GOTD & Wondershare's wasn't, which is good enough for me because I wouldn't likely pay for either [it might come in handy some day but I don't need it]. Tipard & Aiseesoft? Comparing the files from a couple of their apps they're very much the same, but OTOH they took the time & trouble to digitally sign some of those files, & the companies listed are different. If they're the same company or if the code is licensed, why bother? For all I know the lead coder for Aiseesoft is moonlighting at Tipard, or that's his company.
"Wondershare, Aimersoft too. It's a chinese conglomerate. "
China is a Chinese conglomerate really. :)
"Interesting, didn't know and after a search I found this..."
I really don't have a horse in this race -- I'm just enough of a cynic that I don't play favorites. IMHO things to bear in mind when you see posts like that include:
1) on-line, hating or being a fanboy are sort of mob mentality things -- people go along with a crowd. 2) it's popular in some circles to hate on Chinese software companies because they very often use open source &/or free code but often do not attribute the original authors, which to some is stealing. Combine 1 & 2 and very often you can pick up some bias in whatever forums or blogs or...
3) most forum mods & such are rather unique individuals, many of whom feel herding cats just doesn't provide enough of a challenge. That does not however imply or require honesty or integrity or fairness etc. [we here in the GOTD forum are exceedingly lucky] Anyone can be a jerk on-line -- it's a free pass because you can be someone else tomorrow -- and if/when you add an ego that gets off on being in charge, well...
4) if person A is trying to sell something to person B, person A will try to take advantage. Sadly that's universal -- exceptions are rare. Even if the seller is asking what they feel is a fair price, they have a biased opinion of what their product is worth. If you feel companies in one country are more honest, will not try to cheat you as badly as companies in some other country, you my friend have been taken. :) Read the history of how McAfee got it's start & Wondershare looks saintly. The Chinese don't always understand how to market in the west -- I love the hilarity of some of the sale e-mails I get for various holidays. They get in hot water with some for spamming -- maybe they didn't or don't know, or maybe they don't care because it works, I've no idea other than if it didn't work they wouldn't have tried more than once or twice because even a little wasted effort is still wasted effort.
That all said, in this case, & the reason for bothering to post all that, is that the OP & whomever was quoted from Macworld are idgits with agendas. No offense of course, DL -- just FWIW & all that...
The OP, with only 10 posts to his/her name, offers nothing other than a condemnation. I might as well say their hair is ugly. With nothing other than a condemnation, there's no reason for the post if the OP didn't have some sort of agenda. Whatever s/he is selling, I'm not buying just because of that.
The Macworld guy or gal is a Handbrake fan, clueless on how biz works, and IMHO their choice of employer more than hints at a bit of hypocrisy with their post. Handbrake fans are among those very often hating on the China apps as I already mentioned -- truth is that at their very core there's not that huge a difference between the free & open source video apps & the majority of those coming out of China, and it's because they use that same code without mentioning the authors that's usually given as the reason for all that hating.
As far as 1/2 the clueless part, it's been published for over a decade that publications trade positive reviews for advertising -- um, that would include Macworld I imagine. It's been common practice for as long as there have been bloggers to pay in one way or another for good reviews. Amazon & Newegg reviews are often written by folks who received free product just so they would review it. To be clear I'm not making a judgment that that's OK or not -- just saying quid pro quo is the way of the biz world, like it or not. Having a conversation, repeating a statement that's reasonably assumed false, more-or-less that Macworld doesn't engage in pay for play, then wondering why someone doesn't take that statement at face value is clueless.
The other 1/2 of clueless is just software ignorance. Different apps do the same thing, "is otherwise the same in terms of functionality" -- Duh... Word processors are used to write stuff. Image editors edit images. Yet a Ripper with decrypting is the same as a Converter without? And: "there were an overwhelming number of presets (many of which produced poor results)" -- um, those are for different hardware players, as I assume most are aware, so unless one has a pretty fair array of test hardware, how would they know if it works well or not? "The interfaces are invariably garish" -- the eye of the beholder & all that... that's what the China dev's, & presumably a lot of their customers like. I don't wear purple & orange T-shirts, but it's no matter to me if you do. *I Choose* not to be an arrogant SOB, assuming my personal likes & dislikes should dictate your fashion. :)
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