http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464 Giveaway of the Day Forums » Topic: Starburn Shark fix for Win2K SP4 install? en-US Sun, 12 Feb 2012 04:16:50 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-18901 Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:01:17 +0000 goodgotd 18901@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>ayep. It's a software access layer (interface) for burning, since optical drives are supposed to be read-only. So optical writing needs a way around that limit.</p> <p>Nero uses ASPI, (as late as 6.6, anyway) along with *lots* of other older programs, either Adaptec or close. ASPI is like an old BIOS with hdd size limits if I understand correctly, DVD's were about at it's limits- and blu-ray and hd-dvd are beyond it's size limits.</p> <p>Starburn has a multi-method layer, iSCSI pass through, direct, don't recall the others. Don't recall what Infrarecorder and Burnaware used.</p> <p>But that's why most any burning program needs a reboot.</p> <p>Speaking of hd-dvd, just got back from costco, they had the toshiba hd-d3 with 2 bourne discs and a hdmi cable for $79.99- cheaper than the upscaling dvd players right next to it. wish I coulda got one. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-18889 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:27:23 +0000 Violet4714 18889@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>CDBurnerXP installs something called...hmm...<br /> "NMSAccessU"<br /> ...it starts with Windows, even when the program was set to not start w/Windows...<br /> i had to set it to "manual" in "services"...<br /> clueless here, as usual... </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-18855 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:16:58 +0000 goodgotd 18855@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Spotted that on freewarefiles, I suppose I should try it again sometime- but I'm allergic to changes in compilation details 'out of sight', as it trashes the simple use of the 'verify later' md5's- and with a collection like mine, checking for data integrity simply is a key part of maintenance.</p> <p>The irritating part is I have Nero- but only get solid burns under win98, and dual-booting for burning is a pain. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-18851 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:59:07 +0000 Lee 18851@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>BurnAware have released an updated version.</p> <p><a href="http://www.majorgeeks.com/BurnAware_Free_Edition_d5839.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.majorgeeks.com/BurnAware_Free_Edition_d5839.html</a></p> <p>BurnAware Free Edition v1.2.7 </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-18805 Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:21:51 +0000 goodgotd 18805@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>the burning saga continues- </p> <p>Finally tried BurnAware, and for me it's a thumbs down. although it does verify-after-burn, it also appears to do 'silent' renames on too-long file names- burn &#38; verify all read good- but my MD5 hash files revealed the DVD was not identical to the compilation on the hdd. </p> <p>I'm currently testing CDBurnerXP, and if I can get it to burn at 16x on 16x blanks instead of diving in at the 18x the drive is capable of, it'll be right good. (the 18x burn worked out fine, but...) </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-16270 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 09:07:08 +0000 goodgotd 16270@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Well, the StarBurn test mission has gotten pushed back a bit- as long as DataBurner keeps working, the rest is stuff I have other utiities in place already for since blu-ray and hd dvd aren't even on a wish list, much less an affordable possibility. </p> <p>HDTV ditto. </p> <p>I'm working on figuring out the troubles Gary and I are having with SIPPhone Voice over IP. We've been degraded all the way back to Google Talk, which doesn't cut it with his ATA. Aargh.</p> <p>Installing WireShark and sorting out the new routers at the same time is taking a lot of reading manuals, support forums, and trying to interpret between them. That's gotten a bit more urgent for several reasons. Networking through 2 totally new firewalls. </p> <p>My head hurts.</p> <p>The other starburn wizards are replaced (or ignored) thus, until I get the idle time to test and rate them: </p> <p>ImageBuilder- Infra Recorder does files-to-disc image ok, ISOBuster free does fine editing them.<br /> ImageBurner- If I *need* to burn an ISO, IR does work for that.<br /> ImageGrabber- ISOBuster free, that's it's main function.<br /> AudioGrabber &#38; AudioCompressor- a cast of thousands of cd-rippers, all free.<br /> StarPort- I've used Daemon Tools for years to mount virtual CD's and DVD's.<br /> DVDDecrypter- Free DVD Decrypter and DVDFab Decrypter work fine if DVDShrink fails.<br /> AudioBurner- all the CD players I have do MP3, so why only put a few songs on a CD?<br /> VideoBurner- Same reason- All my DVD drives are in computers, DivX and Xvid are better choices.<br /> DiscEraser- CD/DVD-RW discs aren't worth it in my opinion, write-once is too cheap.</p> <p>P.S. I gave BuBBy a personal-for-you email address for you to chat direct with me off-topic on old 'puters and such, PM him and ask for it if you wish. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-16268 Tue, 29 Jan 2008 07:09:16 +0000 Violet4714 16268@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>the mission seems to be taking longer than doing my mom's tax return yesterday...<br /> ever find what ya needed for that pc?...<br /> now that the australian open is over, you can focus!...lol...<br /> to go completely off topic...watching the eaz-fix aftermath has been interesting...some problems could have been avoided just by reading the comments before installing ( system restore, defrag )...changing the MBR was why i didn't try it...trying to read it all has been another learning experience here... </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-16022 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 00:21:11 +0000 goodgotd 16022@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>hmm.... the databurner does lock up on exit at times, but it burns fine. </p> <p>Currently editing some video (as usual captured in DivX home theatre medium format) to test the image creator and burner, then will capture some MPEG-2 for videoburn.</p> <p>continuing mission. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15910 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:56:54 +0000 goodgotd 15910@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I've gone downhill since getting disabled, I'm afraid. but then, I never said I didn't take breaks to regain composure even back in the day. 8-)</p> <p>Funny, I just got in an emachines from '99 with 4 gigs and 32 megs of ram, celeron 366. complete with sales receipt from fry's. amazing.</p> <p>still considering what job it's best suited for. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15904 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 09:18:31 +0000 Violet4714 15904@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>rep for fixing things right...hmm...<br /> "I was so disgusted I didn't bother uninstalling it, just went to bed and sulked"<br /> lol...</p> <p>at least i'm learning from you...thank you...</p> <p>a friend gave me an old pc...10 year old compaq with a 10gb hard drive...so i read your posts &#38; see what i can learn before i hook it all up...alas, it has no burner...just a cd drive...but, if it supports an external drive, i can use your trials &#38; errors for myself!... :) </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15897 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 08:42:06 +0000 goodgotd 15897@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Well... Yeah. That's what made me really tough to beat when I was an amusement/vending tech. And gunsmith. And machinist. And transmission R &#38; R mechanic. Hydraulic engineer. And.. well.</p> <p>I was generally more stubborn than what I was working on. Drove my bosses nuts. But I always had *other* companies trying to hire me away all the time, too- so it worked both ways. A rep for fixing it *right* was worth it.</p> <p>The JOAT in my profile stands for Jack Of All Trades- electronics and computers I just liked best.</p> <p>And I lucked out on the EAZ FIX, the ghost space in the reg code box tossed up the 'invalid key' error, and after looking closer at the subdirectories I waited, and the horror stories started rolling in... </p> <p>Since I have a Ghost image of the system partition and regular differential backups done by Cobian 8, I'd have been a lot better off than lots of others- but it would have ticked me off anyway.</p> <p>I didn't get to BurnAware- some of the stuff I found I didn't download, and then I ordered them by how many steps each looked like they would take. And win9x compatible went last.</p> <p>I started on InfraRecorder, as that 'looked' closest to the nero interface, and it pretty much ate up all the time between. </p> <p>I made up a standard (for me) freeware compilation of 4000 or so files, 4.35 gb- and threw it in headfirst. </p> <p>Which gave me my first qualms, as when I said 'go', it started building an "image" rather than initializing the burner. looked like it'd take a while, so I went and found something else to do.</p> <p>(best guess is it builds an iso, basically, under a different name- and I never did find out where) </p> <p>First error point was that unlike Nero, if a file/directory name comes out too long for the spec, it can't rename- it just gives up. so I came back in a couple of hours and it had bailed out about 3 minutes in. grr. rename, restart.</p> <p>Next it ran out of space (apparently when it does, it removes the part-built file so I couldn't ID the partition) building the image. another large block of time.</p> <p>Then I had to call a break to record (capture) 4 hours of tennis the wife couldn't stay awake to watch. (playback is done on her Pogo computer, but the capture box is on mine)</p> <p>Third time I think it choked on the number of files. So I built an ISO. And first it told me (what a crock) my recorder didn't support Track-At-Once, only Session-At-Once, then complained it couldn't set realtime priority.</p> <p>It burned that ok, but by that time *I* was about burned out on *it*, too. I noticed the starburn icon after I uninstalled InfraRecorder.</p> <p>I use Revo Uninstaller, [ <a href="http://www.revouninstaller.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.revouninstaller.com/</a> ] (hmm, looks like I need to update it) it looks for leftovers, registry *and* file, lets me clean up at uninstall time. Handy, that.</p> <p>anyway, the starburn datarecord wizard did fine, so I have something to fall back on if I don't find a better freeware alternative. </p> <p>I'd prefer being able to add an entire compilation at once, as that's how I build them, in volume-label named subdirectories, with 2 different-format MD5 hashfiles to double-check burns in that directory, and all the rest in folders below that.</p> <p>That way once verified I can delete the files recorded in one step. It also allows me to check the media durability down the road, too, since my volume names include the date. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15884 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:55:08 +0000 Violet4714 15884@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>you are persistent, aren't you?...<br /> my guess was that the next post would've been other burners that you tried out...<br /> after a few too many tries/errors, my inclination is to uninstall &#38; then run "Ccleaner" on the registry...<br /> i hope you get it running...the help section is non-existent, but when you get it going, the software is nice...<br /> personally, i'm still doing a happy dance about my choice to not install that eaz-fix thingamajig yesterday...lol... </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15881 Sun, 27 Jan 2008 06:20:22 +0000 goodgotd 15881@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>P.S. Lazy pays off sometimes, as well as trying different angles of attack when bored.</p> <p>After the last time StarBurn gave me the error, (I tried again after the above post- I'm stubborn, I is- in case installing to F: was the problem, my C: drive is pretty full- not the problem, though I found out that a reboot wasn't needed. close and immediate restart failed too) I was so disgusted I didn't bother uninstalling it, just went to bed and sulked- and tonight I noticed the icon was still there. Clicked, Error. </p> <p>Wondered what the error log said. Didn't make sense, the one I found. Brought up properties on the icon- the target .exe was in the 'wizards' directory. </p> <p>Huh? Went there.</p> <p>Opened "starburn.exe". Error. oookay.</p> <p>Add another angle, why not?. Opened "databurn.exe"- and the data burning wizard came up just fine. </p> <p>Appears the *wizard launcher* trips and falls flat after the installer goes away (next I'll try &#38; see if it uses CL switches- or maybe an explicit launch directory- didn't think to look- I have the free version and another computer to play with) but the individual *wizards* seem to run just fine under win2k sp4. I've got polycarb frying now, will post later on how it does and if other wizards work as well.. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15698 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 07:41:34 +0000 goodgotd 15698@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Stee-rike three and it's out. </p> <p>Uninstall leaves some reg keys behind, easy to remove. </p> <p>Burns great- until you reboot. </p> <p>And that includes disabling AVG, AnVir, Madotate, Cobian Backup and Intellipoint during install and attempted run. </p> <p>Oh well. wonder if the free version will work better. </p> <p>Now where did I put that? Guess it's time to investigate other freeware burning proggies for Win2k. &lt;sigh&gt; and it burned so *well*, too! </p> <p>Feel free to consult, this geek has plenty of time on his hands.... </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15697 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:33:45 +0000 Violet4714 15697@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>was hoping you'd post an update...<br /> and get the program working...<br /> since i need a reliable geek to help me out...lol... </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15696 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:24:50 +0000 goodgotd 15696@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>might as well post the update here where it'll stay put, too:</p> <p>wellll….. yep, it now installs on win2k sp4, but there’s a flicker of what might be an error message right before the ‘recommend to restart’, and though it starts if you run it right off the install, when rebooted, it crashed right after the splash screen.</p> <p>splash says registered, though.</p> <p>reinstall, and ran it without reboot, seems to burn a dvd ok- gonna wait to reboot after the dvd md5 cross-check finishes, find out more then. hmmm.. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15667 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:55:06 +0000 goodgotd 15667@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Being a disabled tech, as well as a computer geek since 1977, for me that makes it totally simple. BTDT, and all.</p> <p>besides, thats what search is for. type in user.reg, and let the computer do the finding. </p> <p>Regedt32 is the bane of Win2k- only that OS, AFAIK. thanks be. </p> <p>By WinXP, there's a new regedit that does everything, but in Win2k they split the functions up between the old regedit, and the new regedt32 for the new stuff (and it does it badly) they thought up to put in the registry. </p> <p>No surprise it's the problem. It's *stupid*. &lt;sigh&gt; </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15666 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:37:15 +0000 Violet4714 15666@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>laughing here...<br /> "sounds easy enough"...<br /> i'd probably have to spend all 24 hours of the giveaway to do that!...i'd be reading, reading, looking everything up...lol...<br /> however, i am happy you can fix the problem...<br /> StarBurn has worked well for me...hope it does for you, too...<br /> :) </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15665 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 01:23:57 +0000 goodgotd 15665@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>well, I didn't see it until I started this thread, Ol' Murphy still has me singled out, but in the comments I found help!</p> <p>(And so far 'Win All' has been the kiss of death, I need something built for the NT kernel.) </p> <p>But:</p> <p>"Okay now I found the problem on W2KSP4.</p> <p>1. It does not like that Daemon tools are installed because it used the same ‘SCSI Pass Through Direct’ software driver but a new version.<br /> So uninstall Daemon before installation and restart (can be reinstalled after)</p> <p>2. The installer used regedt32 to install key with a parameter that does not work on W2K, so the setup hangs.<br /> Manually import user.reg in the program dir, then kill regedt32.exe via taskmanager to complete the installation.</p> <p>Now restart and the installation looks like it works 4 now.</p> <p>/GertJ"</p> <p>Sounds easy enough.</p> <p>If I didn't have the Athlon XP 2800+ booted to Win98 with Nero 6 in the middle of a burn, I'd have it installing. </p> <p>I ought to try BA, but haven't. I usually use Freewarefiles for a source, habit I guess. </p> <p>Heck, call me Bob- I ought to have been less of a smart-alec typing in the user name. Game Giveaway comments show my right name... But I didn't know then how much I would end up here.</p> <p>Archangel has my contact details, if anyone wants to get off-topic via email. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15663 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:56:34 +0000 Violet4714 15663@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>hi, goodgotd...<br /> have you tried BurnAware Free Edition yet?...<br /> i downloaded it from majorgeeks.com, which also has a link to the site...<br /> so you can try the older, stable version...or the beta, &#38; crash away...<br /> i have xpsp2 mce desktop, &#38; vista premium laptop---it works on both of them---and says it supports Win All...<br /> good luck...<br /> :) </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/2464#post-15659 Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:34:31 +0000 goodgotd 15659@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I'll even take a fix on the free version. </p> <p>I don't need a disc emulator, dvd ripper/decrypter, I don't have blu-ray or hd-dvd, any of that. </p> <p>I just need a reliable DVD burning program that works under win2k pro sp4 on an Asus DRW-1814, so I can stop booting to win98 for Nero! </p> <p>I'll volunteer to be an alpha/beta/delta/gamma tester. </p> <p>Make me crash my system, please- I don't care, I have backups! </p> <p>Any chance that's enough begging to raise my chances? </p> <p>(somebody said they found 9.8 free? where? I'll try it...) </p>