http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ Giveaway of the Day Forums Topic: KeyLogger reported in “Smart to Do” by Virtuoza Software Inc en Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:38:04 +0000 http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-17453 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:31:14 +0000 slgraycols 17453@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Any moderators care to answer my question?</p> <p>Thanks for the link from the comments to here but I have already read this thread previously and it did not answer my question (sorry if it's obvious to you but I am no tech expert and the security issues on Windows often confound me somewhat.) </p> <p>This is my question: If I erase the registry key that is appearing as a key logger, will it disable the Smart ‘to do’ software? That is what I would like to know. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-15559 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:53:13 +0000 slgraycols 15559@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Thanks for the link from the comments to here but I have already read this thread previously and it did not answer my question (sorry if it's obvious to you but I am no tech expert and the security issues on Windows often confound me somewhat.) This is my question: If I erase the registry key that is appearing as a key logger, will it disable the Smart ‘to do’ software? That is what I would like to know. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7560 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:16:05 +0000 cdundee007 7560@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Thanks Bubby. I did the tests you did and you are right. A little relief for me now. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7512 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:53:17 +0000 BuBBy 7512@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>@cdundee007 - In this case Spybot is only detecting a registry location used by all Virtuoza products.</p> <p>See <a href="http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3777/20070629100736aa9.jpg">here</a></p> <p>If you deleted or renamed that one registry location your "free keylogger" would magically disappear (according to Spybot). </p> <p>If you didn't have any Virtuoza software on your PC at all, but created that single registry location HKCU\Software\Virtuoza - spybot would tell you that there is a keylogger on your PC.</p> <p>A comparison of this behavior would be if Spybot detected if Microsoft Word was installed by the presence of HKLM\Software\Microsoft instead of HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Word</p> <p>By detecting the "company" instead of the product, would mean that if you installed Powerpoint - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Powerpoint would also be detected as a Word installation.</p> <p>(re-read the third <a href="http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021?replies=11#post-5856">post</a> in this thread) </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7508 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:41:51 +0000 cdundee007 7508@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I use spybot. Oddly there are a couple of programs that also use hotkeys and they are not detected as keylogger (if that is what is being considered by spybot as being a keylogger). When I have time I will disable the hotkey and run a scan and see if it still detects it as a keylogger. Thanks. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7499 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:37:24 +0000 Swan 7499@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Wait a minute guys! ;)</p> <p>Didn't Virtuozo also offer a program that logs keys in order to create system wide personal macros? I seem to remember this conversation before and one of the mods explaining that this was the case.<br /> ~ Swan </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7481 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:52:38 +0000 BuBBy 7481@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <ol> <li>What is your antispyware program giving you the warning</li> <li>What is the EXACT message you are seeing</li> </ol> <p>Read my previous post about the hotkey (Ctrl-Alt-Q) which some programs will see as a keylogger - as it is some code that will intercept that keypress, regardless of what other program currently running. This isn't actually a keylogger in itself - but <a href="http://dotnet2themax.com/ShowContent.aspx?ID=103cca7a-0323-47eb-b210-c2bb7075ba78">the code to perform this "hotkey magic"</a> probably looks very similar to a typical keylogger - to most antispyware programs. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7479 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:31:08 +0000 cdundee007 7479@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Bubby or Lee or GAOTD,<br /> My antispyware keeps detecting smart to-do as a keylogger. I know in the previous posts it was said that it may be a false positive. I installed Incontrol, fusiondesk and smart to-do from virtuoza but i uninstalled incontrol and fusiondesk but kept smart to-do. But, I wanted a confirmation one more time from you all that smart to-do is a safe program before making a final decision on whether to uninstall it. Is it a safe program? Does it have a keylogger? </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-5894 Sat, 19 May 2007 05:41:43 +0000 BuBBy 5894@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>No that is because it is mapping a hot-key (Ctrl-Alt-Q by default) to bring up the application.</p> <p>You can disable this via File -&gt; Options. </p> <p>An application that works with hotkeys can "appear" similar to a keylogger because both require to set low level hooks to intercept keypresses in other processes. Except one is helpful the other is potentially nasty. If you don't trust a program that wants to set hotkeys - don't install it - or disable the hotkey functionality - or even better do some research, contact the vendor talk to other knowledgeable users. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-5893 Sat, 19 May 2007 05:19:39 +0000 cdundee007 5893@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I also got a similar alert. One of my programs alerted me that Smart To Do was trying to gain low level access to the keyboard. I dont know if it means that it is a keylogger. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-5892 Sat, 19 May 2007 04:32:11 +0000 BuBBy 5892@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Have you installed the "Free Key Logger"? </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-5891 Sat, 19 May 2007 04:29:36 +0000 piscote49 5891@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Thanks for the posts from "Theleecher" &#38; "BuBBy". </p> <p>I am still concerned about the KeyLogger situation that I referred to yesterday, as it has appeared again after uninstalling “Smart to Do” by Virtuoza Software Inc. and having removed it from my registry.</p> <p>I have downloaded quite a few of the GAOTD offerings and never run across this problem before.</p> <p>I always run virus scans &#38; read the EULA texts before installing.</p> <p>I can guarantee that I will never go near a Virtuoza product again and encourage others to be very wary before doing so.</p> <p>The following is from "TechRepublics" description of Virtuoza Softwares "Free Key Logger" (this is only for reference as the program that installed the KeyLogger, “Smart to Do”, is from Virtuoza):</p> <p>Overview: Free Key Logger records everything that has been typed on a computer's keyboard. It works in two modes: normal and stealth. In stealth mode it is virtually undetectable. Not shown even in Windows Task Manager.</p> <p>If anyone has any ideas on how to get this damn thing out of my computer I'd sure appreciate it.</p> <p>Thanks in advance. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-5856 Thu, 17 May 2007 21:52:34 +0000 BuBBy 5856@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/955?replies=3#post-5557" rel="nofollow">http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/955?replies=3#post-5557</a></p> <p>It's a false positive (or more accurately a "trace") - it's not detecting a keylogger - it is detecting the top of the branch of registry keys used by all Virtuoza products. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-5851 Thu, 17 May 2007 15:03:37 +0000 Theleecher 5851@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Because Virtuoza do produce a keylogger, some antispyware programs tag the Virtuoza registry keys as "spyware". If they bundled a logger in programs openly sold, I think they would have been pulled up with more than the odd hairtrigger software alert by now. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-5850 Thu, 17 May 2007 14:28:58 +0000 piscote49 5850@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Just wanted to let you know that:</p> <p>This software “Smart to Do” by Virtuoza Software Inc. showed up as a KeyLogger in a recent scan I ran with “SpyBot Search &#38; Destroy” program.</p> <p>Please look into it.</p> <p>Thanks for all you do. </p>