http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ Giveaway of the Day Forums Tag: Virtuoza en Wed, 03 Dec 2008 05:48:39 +0000 http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-17453 Fri, 08 Feb 2008 07:31:14 +0000 slgraycols 17453@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Any moderators care to answer my question?</p> <p>Thanks for the link from the comments to here but I have already read this thread previously and it did not answer my question (sorry if it's obvious to you but I am no tech expert and the security issues on Windows often confound me somewhat.) </p> <p>This is my question: If I erase the registry key that is appearing as a key logger, will it disable the Smart ‘to do’ software? That is what I would like to know. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-15559 Wed, 23 Jan 2008 12:53:13 +0000 slgraycols 15559@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Thanks for the link from the comments to here but I have already read this thread previously and it did not answer my question (sorry if it's obvious to you but I am no tech expert and the security issues on Windows often confound me somewhat.) This is my question: If I erase the registry key that is appearing as a key logger, will it disable the Smart ‘to do’ software? That is what I would like to know. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-13203 Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:36:04 +0000 marcoscu 13203@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I know who I believe in this. Hopefully this will be a lesson to greedy and unscrupulous developers that selling customer's email addresses is not a good idea. Thanks to BuBBy for the tip off. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9662 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 17:00:46 +0000 Keilaron 9662@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I use Yahoo/Rogers' own fake address support. Since my ISP merged with Yahoo, I can freely use that feature. All I have to do is look at "who" the e-mail was addressed to, and know who sent me the spam (and instantly kill that address) ;&gt;</p> <blockquote><p>Any future giveaways (or general promotions for sites other than GOTD) requiring an email address I would strongly suggest investigating the use of semi-permanent email addresses that can be created and used for a single giveaway - and terminated should you no longer wish to be contacted by the company in question. </p></blockquote> <p>Agreed.<br /> I don't remember - as I didn't get this program - but did it require or just ask for one? That is, would it have sufficed to use a completely fake address like <a href="mailto:null@example.com?">null@example.com?</a> (By the way, ever visit that domain?)</p> <blockquote><p>Mail Filtering I would assume. </p></blockquote> <p>Yeah, but I figure the address (and other) headers would be good enough, thus my (rather harsh) comment.</p> <blockquote><p>It is a bit slow (probably hotmails fault) and doesn't handle large attachments (timeouts) for me. Other than that, it's ok. </p></blockquote> <p>Hotmail a fair bit slow, yes. Attachments are an interesting problem with Hotmail, as despite the large storage they give you, the speed at which an attachment is uploaded to you drops proportionally to the time it takes to do so (eventually dropping to zero and timing out). The only way I can manage to download them is to... well, try again =/ I've been avoiding getting large attachments there, though - the space available there is nothing special. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9657 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 13:03:00 +0000 FranckW 9657@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <blockquote><p>Any future giveaways (or general promotions for sites other than GOTD) requiring an email address I would strongly suggest investigating the use of semi-permanent email addresses that can be created and used for a single giveaway - and terminated should you no longer wish to be contacted by the company in question.</p></blockquote> <p>I totally agree. I personally like this service : <a href="http://www.yopmail.com/en/" rel="nofollow">http://www.yopmail.com/en/</a><br /> Just to let you know. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9656 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 02:54:28 +0000 BuBBy 9656@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>keilaron asked:</p> <blockquote><p>Sneakmail's "is sneakmail" one is just funny - what's it for? Primitive mail clients?</p> </blockquote> <p>Mail Filtering I would assume.</p> <blockquote><p>your e-mail addresses (sneakmail and I *think* hotmail) are still visible in a few places.</p> </blockquote> <p>Sneakemail uses two addresses - a public one (like I gave to Virtuoza) and a private one that I use when replying to clean my headers and have the email redirected via sneakemail. I removed all of the "private" addresses. The public ones remain. The visible sneakemail addresses have since been deleted, and will now bounce as undeliverable.</p> <blockquote><p>By the way, enjoying Hotmail Popper? :&gt; I love the program. </p></blockquote> <p>It is a bit slow (probably hotmails fault) and doesn't handle large attachments (timeouts) for me. Other than that, it's ok.</p> <p>Back on topic - I don't doubt that I am 100% correct in what I believe happened. Even if two people who used a unique &#38; virgin email address (from different services) for the giveaway subsequently received the exact same spam emails - only says to me that someone (likely working at or for Virtuoza) has demonstrated they cannot be trusted with peoples personal details.</p> <p>Any future giveaways (or general promotions for sites other than GOTD) requiring an email address I would strongly suggest investigating the use of semi-permanent email addresses that can be created and used for a single giveaway - and terminated should you no longer wish to be contacted by the company in question. </p> <p>Just don't give out your main email address to anyone. It's far too hard to get it back if they abuse your trust. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9652 Wed, 29 Aug 2007 00:47:54 +0000 AlexSJ 9652@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Totally on target, Bubby. I use spamgourmet and did the same thing you did only for three pc's. All unique e-mail addresses never used afterwards but up until the alotted number of mails to be received spam over spam came in - lottery, nigeria ... on all the e-mail addresses given during these giveaways.<br /> I can only highly recommend using a service like that, by the way spamgourmet is free (some restrictions apply). I usually allow 20 e-mails, but after this experience I will limit to 5 max. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9647 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:47:07 +0000 Face 9647@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I, too, have received an generous quantity of spam since downloading Smart To Do.</p> <p>borisyankov,<br /> As BuBBy has pointed out, it's difficult for people to complain about spam if they are not certain where it came from. Don't think that just because you haven't heard from the rest of the 5000, that we aren't also being bombarded with this trash. </p> <p>I would like to hear your explanation of how spam ended up in BuBBy's mailbox when that address was given out only to Virtuoza. And in particular, why "Smart To-Do" specifically, is a part of the return address. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9641 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:41:45 +0000 clobermier 9641@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I'm getting an enormous amount of spam ever since I gave Virtuoza my email address. While I admit the spam could come from anywhere, I can't help being suspicious since I didn't get spam until I gave my email address. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9640 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:23:09 +0000 Keilaron 9640@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Pardon for being off-topic...<br /> I love some of the headers in that e-mail. Sneakmail's "is sneakmail" one is just funny - what's it for? Primitive mail clients?<br /> Also, BuBBy, your e-mail addresses (sneakmail and I *think* hotmail) are still visible in a few places. By the way, enjoying Hotmail Popper? :&gt; I love the program. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9635 Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:19:03 +0000 Michelle 9635@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I get a lot of scam e-mails in my yahoo inbox. I just delete them and do not reply to them. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9609 Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:59:35 +0000 BuBBy 9609@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I created a unique email address using the sneakemail.com service which was generated - and I tagged it (visible only to myself) as an email address used only for Virtuoza software.</p> <p>I provided this generated email address on the same day only for the purpose of this giveaway. It had never been used or provided previously for any other purpose whatsoever. The email address was only given to Virtuoza software.</p> <p>As I said earlier - I received <a href="http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/970/virtuozaspamib7.jpg">THIS.</a></p> <p>After receiving the "winning lottery" spam - it was not a coincidence that other people also received the same spam emails as a result of the Virtuoza promotion.</p> <p>Sorry. Having this "secret email address" that only Virtuoza and myself knew about - come back to me as a spam email from a scammer - can mean only one thing. </p> <p>Somebody can't keep a secret.</p> <blockquote><p>I have no idea how the guy in the post got his spam, but the very fact noone of the rest of 5000 people that registered that day complained means it is something else, not us, right? </p></blockquote> <p>It is more likely that most people automatically delete spam without investigating it - or have no method in place to investigate who sent the email or how they got their email address (especially if they used their regular/primary email address in the promotion). Who do you complain to if you don't know who gave your email address out?</p> <p>This situation only goes to illustrate how important it is to guard your primary email address and identity as you have no control over how it is used, once you give it out. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-9608 Sun, 26 Aug 2007 02:42:09 +0000 borisyankov 9608@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Hi, my name is Boris Yankov and I am the owner of Virtuoza Software, we did the promotion of Smart To-Do and FusionDesk on GiveAwayOfTheDay.</p> <p>The emails collected when promoting Smart To-Do were intended to be used to give away a discount coupon for FusionDesk, which I later realized could not be appreciated (considered spam).</p> <p>To even think that a legitimate company will sell your emails to some scammers (both scamming and selling your data without persmission is highly illegal) is rather naive.</p> <p>I have no idea how the guy in the post got his spam, but the very fact noone of the rest of 5000 people that registered that day complained means it is something else, not us, right? </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7560 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 14:16:05 +0000 cdundee007 7560@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Thanks Bubby. I did the tests you did and you are right. A little relief for me now. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7531 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 04:03:15 +0000 BuBBy 7531@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Yeah - screw 'em, I say. ;) </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7528 Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:33:57 +0000 MisterD 7528@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Thanks for the link to Sneakemail BuBBy, just bought a year's sub, Virtuoza and the rest of them can now pump sand :) </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7512 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 23:53:17 +0000 BuBBy 7512@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>@cdundee007 - In this case Spybot is only detecting a registry location used by all Virtuoza products.</p> <p>See <a href="http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/3777/20070629100736aa9.jpg">here</a></p> <p>If you deleted or renamed that one registry location your "free keylogger" would magically disappear (according to Spybot). </p> <p>If you didn't have any Virtuoza software on your PC at all, but created that single registry location HKCU\Software\Virtuoza - spybot would tell you that there is a keylogger on your PC.</p> <p>A comparison of this behavior would be if Spybot detected if Microsoft Word was installed by the presence of HKLM\Software\Microsoft instead of HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Word</p> <p>By detecting the "company" instead of the product, would mean that if you installed Powerpoint - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Powerpoint would also be detected as a Word installation.</p> <p>(re-read the third <a href="http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021?replies=11#post-5856">post</a> in this thread) </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7508 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 22:41:51 +0000 cdundee007 7508@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I use spybot. Oddly there are a couple of programs that also use hotkeys and they are not detected as keylogger (if that is what is being considered by spybot as being a keylogger). When I have time I will disable the hotkey and run a scan and see if it still detects it as a keylogger. Thanks. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7499 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 19:37:24 +0000 Swan 7499@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Wait a minute guys! ;)</p> <p>Didn't Virtuozo also offer a program that logs keys in order to create system wide personal macros? I seem to remember this conversation before and one of the mods explaining that this was the case.<br /> ~ Swan </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7492 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 17:19:44 +0000 Hadeda 7492@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Glad I used my dodgeit address :)</p> <p>Heres some receive-only email websites I know of<br /> <a href="http://www.dodgeit.com" rel="nofollow">www.dodgeit.com</a><br /> <a href="http://www.trashonthe.net" rel="nofollow">www.trashonthe.net</a></p> <p>P.s. Enjoy my false email address Virtuoza :) </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7481 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:52:38 +0000 BuBBy 7481@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <ol> <li>What is your antispyware program giving you the warning</li> <li>What is the EXACT message you are seeing</li> </ol> <p>Read my previous post about the hotkey (Ctrl-Alt-Q) which some programs will see as a keylogger - as it is some code that will intercept that keypress, regardless of what other program currently running. This isn't actually a keylogger in itself - but <a href="http://dotnet2themax.com/ShowContent.aspx?ID=103cca7a-0323-47eb-b210-c2bb7075ba78">the code to perform this "hotkey magic"</a> probably looks very similar to a typical keylogger - to most antispyware programs. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1021#post-7479 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 14:31:08 +0000 cdundee007 7479@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Bubby or Lee or GAOTD,<br /> My antispyware keeps detecting smart to-do as a keylogger. I know in the previous posts it was said that it may be a false positive. I installed Incontrol, fusiondesk and smart to-do from virtuoza but i uninstalled incontrol and fusiondesk but kept smart to-do. But, I wanted a confirmation one more time from you all that smart to-do is a safe program before making a final decision on whether to uninstall it. Is it a safe program? Does it have a keylogger? </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7453 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:48:40 +0000 VampireRat 7453@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Glad I didn't DL that one.<br /> Thanks from me, too, Bubby, for the sneakemail tip.<br /> Archangel,<br /> "I purchased the software and use it because of my failing mind. LOL<br /> That could be why I haven't received any. "<br /> Maybe you <em>did</em> get some, but you've already forgot.</p> <p>For those who want something different from Sneakmail, I'd like to add these two temporary e-mail providers gleaned from my pursuing of the GAOTD Archives for just such gems:</p> <p>Good for 10 minutes<br /> <a href="http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html" rel="nofollow">http://10minutemail.com/10MinuteMail/index.html</a></p> <p>If you cannot type that fast or get nervous with just 10 min - this one gives you 15 min.!<br /> <a href="http://www.guerrillamail.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.guerrillamail.com/</a> </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7452 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:29:50 +0000 BuBBy 7452@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I know just the person who needs $10,000,000.00</p> <p><a href="mailto:support@virtuoza.com">support@virtuoza.com</a></p> <p>Emilian Stanev Street; 11-B-1<br /> Dimitrovgrad, Bulgaria</p> <p>Phone: (359) 898-469160<br /> Fax: (302) 347-6028</p> <p><strong>From their privacy policy.</strong><br /> The entire policy is available at - <a href="http://www.smarttodo.com/privacy-policy.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.smarttodo.com/privacy-policy.html</a></p> <p>----------<br /> <em>The information we collect is used to notify consumers about updates to our Web site, not shared with other organizations for commercial purposes.</p> <p>With respect to Ad Servers: We do not partner with or have special relationships with any ad server companies.</p> <p>From time to time, we may use customer information <strong>for new, unanticipated uses not previously disclosed</strong> in our privacy notice. If our information practices change at some time in the future we will use for these new purposes only data collected from the time of the policy change forward.</p> <p>If you choose to subscribe to our announcements e-mail list, your e-mail address will be used only for the purpose of sending you company-related email. Your address will not be sold or given away to any other entity.</p> <p>If you feel that this site is not following its stated information policy, you may contact us at the above email address.</em><br /> ----------</p> <p>So feel free to contact Barrister Eze Uba on behalf of Virtuoza. I'm sure they will be of great assistance to each other. LOL. (I'm joking... don't really misuse Virtuoza's details... you should respect <em>their</em> privacy). </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7451 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:26:49 +0000 Lee 7451@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Anyone that hands over their personal details via email deserve what they get.</p> <p>I get 4 or so 419 scams per week.</p> <p>Bounce them is what you do or reply with 'go screw' yourself.</p> <p>Greed is the motivation of those that get scammed.</p> <p>I did read that some people that got scammed them become the scammers.</p> <p>Ohh well if a company sells off your email address then it can be proved and they can be dealt with. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7450 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:19:53 +0000 Archangel 7450@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Last I heard there were 30 some odd different Nigerian scam letters. The FBI is on top of it but I'm sure one more directing them back to the original sender sure wouldn't hurt.</p> <p>The bottom line is, you open or give them access to your bank account for the money transfer. Thats when the draw out everything plus a credit limit usually 300 bucks and your left holding the bag.</p> <p>There are 100's of thousands that fall for this. Now multiply that with what it takes to open a checking account.</p> <p>Greed will get a person quicker than anything. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7449 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 09:16:37 +0000 alexiussg 7449@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>the scam sounds so real, but when i saw the address "Lagos-Nigeria", i knew there's something fishy about the email. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7448 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 08:25:33 +0000 alch3mist 7448@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Wow, ANOTHER scam email from them. These type of e-mails are illegal, and since we know who started the chain, I wonder if the FBI or anyone would be interested in that.</p> <p>"</p> <p> Barrister Eze Uba.<br /> Ajumogobia and Okeke Chambers.<br /> Company and Property Lawyers.<br /> Gerald Ford Avenue.<br /> Appapa.<br /> Lagos-Nigeria.<br /> Telephone: 234-803-4279662.<br /> Personal Email:ezeuba@mail15.com<br /> Chambers Email:ajumo_okekechambers@excite.com</p> <p>Sir,</p> <p>Compliment of the season.</p> <p>I am a principal partner to Ajumogobia and Okeke Chambers. I was a Legal adviser to a National of your Country,an Oil consultant/contractor with the Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation {NNPC} who lost his life along with his wife and only daughter in the plane crash of Kano on 6th of May,2003.</p> <p>The following websites could be referenced:<br /> <a href="http://www.usafricaonline.com/ngrkanocrash.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.usafricaonline.com/ngrkanocrash.htm</a><br /> <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1968616.stm" rel="nofollow">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/1968616.stm</a></p> <p>Before his death my client{Mr.Mark Hayes} deposited with Inland Finance and Securities a conglomorate of First Inland Bank Plc $10,000,000.00 (Ten Million US Dollars only}with the hope of moving it to his country before his unfortunate death in the plane crash.Since his death the fund has been with Inland Finance and securities without any claim either from his family members or relations and all necesaary enquires I made to locate them proved abortive as the only heir/next of kin died along with him.</p> <p><em>[snip... no need for the entire spiel - I am sure everyone has seen these before]</em> </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7446 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 06:55:31 +0000 BuBBy 7446@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Yep no worries. I can recommend <a href="http://sneakemail.com" rel="nofollow">http://sneakemail.com</a> to everyone.</p> <p>Wondering <a href="http://sneakemail.com/info.pl?sel=example">how it works</a>?</p> <p>They have a free (but still very usable) service, or a paid service which has much more generous limits for around $2 per month. IMO a small price to pay to stay spam free, and to identify the sites that sell your email address to spammers. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/1294#post-7444 Thu, 28 Jun 2007 04:55:19 +0000 Archangel 7444@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Guess what......Hope you don't mind me borrowing the sneakemail addy from you and checking it out. I guess I'll be using it from now on. Much appreciated for the heads up again alch3mist. </p>