http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/tags/spyware Giveaway of the Day Forums » Tag: spyware - Recent Posts en-US Thu, 26 Nov 2009 07:29:21 +0000 http://bbpress.org/?v=1.0.2 q http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/search.php http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/719/page/6#post-68097 Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:04:02 +0000 nrshapiro 68097@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Norton Internet Security 2010 will not allow activate.exe to run. It won&#39;t allow it to stay either--deleting it. I could disable NAV of course, but then if activate.exe did contain a virus I&#39;d be screwed, especially since it needs to be run with admin privileges. So I think GOTD needs to work this out with Norton. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6579#post-68042 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:17:28 +0000 "The Quantum Dragon" AKA Paul 68042@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Three sites I know of offer this kind of service!</p> <p>The one site I use the most is SiteAdvisor, they offer an award-winning, free browser plug-in (for FireFox and IE) that gives safety advice about Websites before you click on a risky site.</p> <p>For more on this program and site, go here: <a href="http://www.siteadvisor.com/howitworks/index.html">What is SiteAdvisor?</a></p> <p>The site for WoT (Web of Trust) is here: <a href="http://www.mywot.com/">Free Internet Security, WOT warns you about risky websites</a></p> <p>On top of SiteAdvisor and Web of Trust, there is also a less well know site: <a href="http://safeweb.norton.com/">Norton Safe Web</a>.</p> <p>=====================================================================================</p> <p>But regardless of which one you use first, it is important to check on all because these sites rely mostly on user feedback and said users (operating under nicknames) may not always be well intentioned or well informed.</p> <p>So before panicking and picking up torches, just breathe and take it with a grain of salt.</p> <p>For more information, you might also try reading reports at these sites:</p> <p>Here: <a href="http://www.stopbadware.org/home/users">Information for Internet Users (StopBadware)</a></p> <p>and here: <a href="http://www.truthorfiction.com/">Get the truth about virus warnings, hoaxes, scams and other opinions (Thruth or Fiction)</a></p> <p>=====================================================================================</p> <p>Here are the links to the opinions about GOTD from these three sites:</p> <p>1) <a href="http://www.siteadvisor.com/sites/giveawayoftheday.com?version=2&amp;core_ver=1.0&amp;pip=true&amp;premium=false&amp;client_ver=2.9.260&amp;client_type=IEPlugin&amp;suite=true&amp;aff_id=0&amp;locale=fr-CA&amp;os_ver=5.1.3.0">SiteAdvisor</a></p> <p>2) <a href="http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/www.giveawayoftheday.com">Web of Trust (WoT)</a></p> <p>3) <a href="http://safeweb.norton.com/report/show?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.giveawayoftheday.com%2F&amp;x=9&amp;y=9">Norton Safe Web</a></p> <p>=====================================================================================</p> <p>Hope this helps</p> <p>Quantum Dragon AKA Paul </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6579#post-68041 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:36:27 +0000 Chip 68041@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>This may be what your looking for:<br /> <a href="http://www.siteadvisor.com/">http://www.siteadvisor.com/</a></p> <p>You just type the websites name in the box at the right under where it says &quot;View a Site Report&quot; and you are taken to a page that gives it a green, yellow, or red rating. It also gives you user reviews as well as a chart of all sites the site in question connects to. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6579#post-68040 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 01:22:38 +0000 Dragonlair 68040@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Firefox has an add-in for WOT. You don&#39;t need a toolbar. It just has a little circular icon beside the home page icon with a color indicating it&#39;s ranking. If you haven&#39;t &quot;voted yourself&quot;, there&#39;s an asterisk in the upper left edge of the circle. Also, if you access a site it doesn&#39;t have a good rating for, you get a warning message. You can have it block you but I don&#39;t have it set that way. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6579#post-68039 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:25:49 +0000 Terri218 68039@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Web of Trust (WOT) gives you a toolbar that shows a green, yellow or red indicator based on users&#39; evaluations and experiences of that site. I don&#39;t know if that is what you are referring to but I found it in these forums and have been very happy with it. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6579#post-68038 Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:11:27 +0000 PlainVanilla 68038@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>A while back I was reading one of the many topics in here and it mentioned something about a site that would list other sites as either redflagged or (insert name here, I had a brain fart), based on if they were adware/spyware/otherwise iffy. What site was it? </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/719/page/6#post-68005 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:56:51 +0000 Steve 68005@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/photo-stamp-remover/" rel="nofollow">http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/photo-stamp-remover/</a></p> <p>OS = Windows XP Pro, sp3, IE8, all patches. Stamp Remover has been on this machine since the giveaway, although I don&#39;t think I ever used it after the giveaway.</p> <p>SAV 9.0.7.1000, scan engine 91.2.1.10, virus definitions version 11/18/2009 rev. 3. auto-protect scan detected c:\program files\photo stamp remover\StampRemover.exe as a threat called &quot;downloader&quot;. default action = clean (failed). backup action = quarantine (failed). final action taken by SAV = delete. The file was deleted successfully.</p> <p>Very suspsicious if you ask me, especially since I wasn&#39;t even using the software. I was starting another software (radioget) at the time. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6564#post-67920 Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:53:02 +0000 hotdoge3 67920@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707</a> (Keep getting This up date) did kill off Assistant and the registry but come back,I am not the only one? do you know a fix Please? Thanks in *</p> <p>Note This update is included in Windows 7 and in the .NET Framework 4.0.</p> <p>To download the Update to .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 for the .NET Framework Assistant 1.0 for Firefox, visit the following Microsoft Web site:</p> <p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&amp;tid=e959e347-aea1-4e1b-bbff-8034a655caea&amp;cat=&amp;lang=&amp;cr=&amp;sloc=&amp;p=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/en-us/default.aspx?dg=microsoft.public.windowsupdate&amp;tid=e959e347-aea1-4e1b-bbff-8034a655caea&amp;cat=&amp;lang=&amp;cr=&amp;sloc=&amp;p=1</a> (Microsoft has used its trojan)</p> <p><a href="http://forums.techguy.org/windows-vista/839927-kb963707-kb957209.html" rel="nofollow">http://forums.techguy.org/windows-vista/839927-kb963707-kb957209.html</a> (Kb963707 &amp; kb957209)</p> <p><a href="http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1255622936" rel="nofollow">http://www.annoyances.org/exec/forum/winxp/1255622936</a></p> <p><a href="http://help.lockergnome.com/general/MS-NET-Framework-update-KB963707--ftopict58035.html" rel="nofollow">http://help.lockergnome.com/general/MS-NET-Framework-update-KB963707--ftopict58035.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/05/microsoft_update_quietly_insta.html" rel="nofollow">http://voices.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2009/05/microsoft_update_quietly_insta.html</a></p> <p>Microsoft -- this is a great example of how not to convince people to trust your security updates. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6495#post-67436 Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:32:03 +0000 hotdoge3 67436@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Is there a way for users to opt-out of installing the toolbar? HappyPerson Yes if you get the full Nero and Pay, and un Tick Tool bar,I have to install the trial for the updated version of nero. and Put in the # go to Full in one go or you can add # later. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6495#post-67414 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 23:17:15 +0000 Txnnok 67414@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>All that the email thing is that they send you emails for their software. They do not give it to any other vender. I have tested this with other emails that I rarely use and the only email I get is from them and only for promotions. </p> <p>I have no idea about the promotion though. I own nero and updating is pain. I have to install the trial for the updated version of nero.</p> <p>Now I know I go to my spot on nero and download and the updated version from my email, but at that time it was a learning process.<br /> ------------<br /> Seems strange that they could make you keep a toolbar to use or functionality in nero. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6495#post-67406 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:19:47 +0000 leofelix 67406@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>@ HappyPerson: no, there is no way to install Nero &quot;free&quot; without Ask toolbar.</p> <p>You may use <u>HiJackThis</u>, if you use Internet Explorer to try to remove that vulnerable and privacy risk toolbar.</p> <p>Or if you use Firefox you may create a new profile</p> <p><a href="http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_a_new_Firefox_profile_on_Windows" rel="nofollow">http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_a_new_Firefox_profile_on_Windows</a></p> <p>but you must first backup your bookmars and some other data thanks to</p> <p><strong>Moz Backup</strong></p> <p><a href="http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/" rel="nofollow">http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/</a></p> <p>Hope it helps</p> <p>Cheers </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6495#post-67369 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:07:21 +0000 HappyPerson 67369@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Is there a way for users to opt-out of installing the toolbar? </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6495#post-67362 Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:21:46 +0000 hotdoge3 67362@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dubious-Tactics-Packaged-into-Free-Nero-9-Lite-126360.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://news.softpedia.com/news/Dubious-Tactics-Packaged-into-Free-Nero-9-Lite-126360.shtml</a></p> <p>On November 5th, 2009, the free flavor of Nero 9 was “kicked up a notch” and officially offered to end users. But users won’t be able to find the updated links to download Nero 9 Lite Build 9.4.12.708 on Softpedia. </p> <p><a href="http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero9-free.php" rel="nofollow">http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nero9-free.php</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.nero.com/eng/support-nero9-free-system-requirements.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nero.com/eng/support-nero9-free-system-requirements.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.msfn.org/board/release-nero-lite-v9-2-6-0-t127399.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.msfn.org/board/release-nero-lite-v9-2-6-0-t127399.html</a> </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6451#post-67088 Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:19:47 +0000 watcher13 67088@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Good point, judydog. Maybe they&#39;ll see that. Or maybe post it in the blog post on Software Informer. Or send them a comment. Of course, you&#39;d think they&#39;ve already heard this before, but, sometimes when you think that, you&#39;re actually the first one to say it. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6451#post-67030 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 18:07:27 +0000 judydog 67030@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>This Is one of them hidden options,If I never downloaded from this site,If I was faced with that window popping up.I would think I had to Press Install,thinking close would cancel the Installation,activation as Watcher has already said,It would have been much clearer If It was made like the add giveaway,com to your bookmarks with the checkbox next to It. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6451#post-67026 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:59:03 +0000 watcher13 67026@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Thanks, Lady Gray. I don&#39;t understand why the confusion about all this still, even after GOTD fixed it. Maybe people are misunderstanding and thinking if you click close you&#39;re canceling the giveaway install, too. ??? </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/719/page/6#post-67025 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:55:24 +0000 TeXaCo 67025@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>After installing IOBIT 360 reported it the dll file as a trojan. Then after scanning my whole system, it came up with 15 other files from regtidy as a virus. As the program was taking me to (I&#39;m assuming the software website). Avira blocked the website from being displayed saying it was known to be a malicious website and WOT also blocked it.</p> <p>Now I know there have been false positives in the past but this seems to be too much to be false. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6451#post-67024 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:54:37 +0000 notblocklox 67024@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>@ averydennis, welcome to the forums.</p> <p>Software Informer will only be installed when you check the install button - opt-in.<br /> And the uninstaller worked perfectly for me.<br /> Where is the proof for your assertion <em>&quot;Software Informer is dangerous software hijacker, keylogger, and spyware.&quot;</em><br /> Do you have any review, did you scan it? Please post the result of the scan.</p> <p><a href="http://www.picdepict.com/"><img src="http://www.picdepict.com/images/77736552705134563321.jpg"></a> </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6451#post-67021 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 16:10:34 +0000 StevieD 67021@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Hmmm, strange, but the uninstall option in the Software Informer menu group worked fine for me. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6451#post-67014 Sun, 01 Nov 2009 15:38:58 +0000 averydennis 67014@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>I don&#39;t like that the people at giveaway try to install the spyware program Software Informer. Software Informer is dangerous software hijacker, keylogger, and spyware.<br /> This application can’t be deleted or uninstalled unless you do direct manual deletion into registry: The Software Informer also causes high CPU utilization and makes overall computer performance dropped. To the best of this software strategy, it also hijacks <a href="http://www.google.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com</a> seach functionality, if you try to find information regarding this sofware, the page will only show information from Software Informer websiet for pages. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/719/page/6#post-66963 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 21:46:02 +0000 perz 66963@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>RegTidy trojan detected and identified by Avira AntiVir Premium:<br /> Virus or unwanted program &#39;TR/Drop.arte.410624 [trojan]&#39;<br /> detected in file &#39;C:\Program Files\RegTidy 2009\RegTidy.dll.<br /> Action performed: Deny access </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/719/page/6#post-66949 Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:27:32 +0000 leofelix 66949@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>RegTidy is a misleading application, it will brings to false positive detection, more it can mess up you system.</p> <p><a href="http://www.emsisoft.com/en/malware/?Adware.Win32.RegTidy" rel="nofollow">http://www.emsisoft.com/en/malware/?Adware.Win32.RegTidy</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/regtidy.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/regtidy.com</a></p> <p>I wonder GOTD team didn&#39;t check it </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/4783#post-66440 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 09:16:10 +0000 hotdoge3 66440@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://clubhouse.microsoft.com/public/post/97bd9ec6-702c-4998-a34f-c22954c91ad0" rel="nofollow">http://clubhouse.microsoft.com/public/post/97bd9ec6-702c-4998-a34f-c22954c91ad0</a></p> <p>MS09-054: IE and Firefox Attack Surface (Info &amp; settings) IE &amp; Firefox</p> <p><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cecc62dc-96a7-4657-af91-6383ba034eab" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=cecc62dc-96a7-4657-af91-6383ba034eab</a> </p> <p>IMPORTANT: After installing the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 package (either the bootstrapper or the full package) you should immediately install the update KB959209 to address a set of known application compatibility issues. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6391#post-66368 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:56:06 +0000 Maud 66368@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>hotdoge3 - I found the discrepancies in the links. The first one, on vulnerabilities in .pdf applications, should be <a href="http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Vulnerabilities-in-several-PDF-applications-833449.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Vulnerabilities-in-several-PDF-applications-833449.html</a></p> <p>The post on Firefox first blocking, then unblocking the MS extension is just missing a hyphen: <a href="http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Firefox-blocks-then-unblocks-Microsoft-add-on-832309.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Firefox-blocks-then-unblocks-Microsoft-add-on-832309.html</a> </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6391#post-66367 Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:40:48 +0000 Maud 66367@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>hotdoge3 - the first link, to the h online story on pdf vulnerabilities, and the link to the story on Firefox blocking/unblocking the MS add-on, lead to 404s. Not sure why, as the pdf story, anyway, is still up over there, and the other links are ok. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6391#post-66363 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:30:32 +0000 hotdoge3 66363@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p><a href="http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Vulnerabilities-in-severalPDF-applications-833449.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Vulnerabilities-in-severalPDF-applications-833449.html</a></p> <p>Vulnerabilities in several PDF applications</p> <p><a href="http://software.silicon.com/security/0,39024655,39582320,00.htm" rel="nofollow">http://software.silicon.com/security/0,39024655,39582320,00.htm</a></p> <p>Scareware is bad for your PC and your pocket - but the fake security warning messages popping up on your screen are only the most visible part of a complex scam.<br /> <a href="http://www.h-online.com/newsticker/news/item/Washington-and-Microsoft-sue-fake-anti-spyware-vendors-737513.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.h-online.com/newsticker/news/item/Washington-and-Microsoft-sue-fake-anti-spyware-vendors-737513.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://secunia.com/advisories/37049/" rel="nofollow">http://secunia.com/advisories/37049/</a> &gt; Foxit Reader Firefox Plugin Memory </p> <p><a href="http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Adobe-closes-29-vulnerabilities-in-Acrobat-and-Reader-828796.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Adobe-closes-29-vulnerabilities-in-Acrobat-and-Reader-828796.html</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Firefox-blocks-then-unblocks-Microsoftadd-on-832309.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Firefox-blocks-then-unblocks-Microsoftadd-on-832309.html</a></p> <p>Firefox blocks, then unblocks, Microsoft add-on see Post on<br /> how-to-remove-microsoft-net-spyware-extension</p> <p><a href="http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Lost-Found-Botnets-Rescue-CD-Calculators-Flickr-and-Online-Banking-826382.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.h-online.com/security/news/item/Lost-Found-Botnets-Rescue-CD-Calculators-Flickr-and-Online-Banking-826382.html</a></p> <p>API Key used to authenticate API requests from applications has been crackedPDF and posted online. Due to a vulnerability in the signing process, attackers can generate valid signatures </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/4783#post-66362 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 23:10:39 +0000 hotdoge3 66362@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Terri218 you not safe with IE 7 or IE as the same up date for All,There’s a fair bit of confusion circulating about what happened,<br /> <a href="http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article08-600" rel="nofollow">http://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article08-600</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms09-054.mspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/bulletin/ms09-054.mspx</a></p> <p>Remote Code Execution Critical Microsoft Security Bulletin MS09-054 - Critical<br /> Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (974455) &amp; Firefox</p> <p><a href="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522777" rel="nofollow">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=522777</a></p> <p><a href="http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139459/Sneaky_Microsoft_plug_in_puts_Firefox_users_at_ris" rel="nofollow">http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9139459/Sneaky_Microsoft_plug_in_puts_Firefox_users_at_ris</a></p> <p>k</p> <p>Removal instructions for the first part are here:<br /> <a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707</a><br /> This article describes how to remove the .NET Framework Assistant for Firefox from your computer. </p> <p>This article also describes how to update the .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 for the .NET Framework Assistant 1.0 so that the component can be disabled.</p> <p><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707</a></p> <p>The second part can be removed by deleting the folder:<br /> C:\WINDOWS\Microsoft.NET\Framework\v3.5\Windows Presentation Foundation</p> <p><a href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707" rel="nofollow">http://support.microsoft.com/kb/963707</a></p> <p>How to remove the .NET Framework Assistant for Firefox</p> <p><a href="https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/blocklist/" rel="nofollow">https://www.mozilla.com/en-US/blocklist/</a></p> <p> Microsoft .NET Framework Assistant and Windows Presentation Foundation, all versions, for all applications. Reason: remote code execution vulnerability (see bug 522777).(or similar)<br /> If you got Net Framework 1.1 or 2 you are ok but if you got 3 &amp; 3.5 and firefox no good to check go to Tools options Applications &amp; allso add-ons &amp; look for (Windows Markup File) (XAML Browser Application) (Windows Presentation Foundation) if the up date fix you not see it&#39;s Critical so do check may come back so keep checking. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/4783#post-66330 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 16:10:43 +0000 watcher13 66330@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Just occurred to me, too, that you could used that suggestion that I posted in the other thread. Use something like Returnil or Windows Steady State when you apply the updates. Then, if there&#39;s damage, you can easily wipe it away. If they&#39;re good, you can make the changes permanent. </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/4783#post-66329 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 15:54:00 +0000 watcher13 66329@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>Terri, have you seen this thread:<br /> <a href="http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6361#post-65993" rel="nofollow">http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/6361#post-65993</a><br /> The new update badly messed up Copmom&#39;s system and others, too. I&#39;d do the updates in manual, so I could pick and choose if I were you. She found on the web that this update has been crashing some XP systems and a system restore is blocked:<br /> KB971486<br /> I&#39;d be cautious before installing that one!<br /> Of course, you could avoid the Firefox killer that way, too. But you&#39;d have to not get the .net fixes. Good ol&#39; MS! </p> http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/topic/4783#post-66320 Wed, 21 Oct 2009 13:28:44 +0000 Terri218 66320@http://www.giveawayoftheday.com/forums/ <p>So is this thing safe if you have IE7? People are still urging me to do the recent big Windows Security update. Opinions? </p>