hey thanks, i did not want to start a war, so lets all look at each other and view it as being helpful
fg

wow- i loved the dragonriders of pern! i haven't read any in over 15 (maybe 20 years). i've considered picking some up, but there are so many now and i'm a little (maybe a lot) compulsive. i wouldn't be able to read them unless i could start at the beginning again and have them all in order.

i foresee a trip to the library in my future.

thanks for the reminder.

i'm going to finish my 'thread hunting' (get it? :D ) and head to bed.
goodnight all.

Let's see .. I know the difference between a Dracolyte and Dragonrider; that dragons are identified by chromatics and metallics; that an unborn dragon is a wyrmling; that Tiamat is not one to mess with; and all things considered, I'd rather be a Dragonsong Lyrist.

Because my Dad was a Shriner/Jester/ROORAG, I know that Zor is a chapter of the Shrine based in Minnesota (Michigan?) and thanks to a childhood passion for reading, I know Zor-El was Jor-El's brother. Seems to me Zor also has something to do with war .. war-like .. ? Maybe a warlike tribe?

Bobby, thanks for being understanding - I didn't think you intended to come across that way and even said plainly I may be the only one who saw it that way; apparently so. Again, I apologize.

Others - It wasn't that I assumed Bobby's post was malicious or that it was intended - I expressed the opposite opinion of that, actually - just that it came across that way to me. The reason I posted my reply was just as an FYI kind of thing so that I could convey what someone else COULD think about the post - like I said, I never considered it to be intentional or even factual, just an impression that _I_ got (and I even stated that I could be the ONLY one to get that, and that that would be my bad) so please stop the counter-rants, I've addressed them already. I understand that I probably DID sound off a bit hasty but that was another reason why I DID apologize in the original post.

Bobby's statement(s):
"I posted a sample letter under the 'whiners' thread. It's geared toward games but can be easily altered for Mac software. Hope it helps." seemed to imply that the solution for those asking about a potential Mac GOTD was to be found in the 'whiners' thread (actually, it's not implied, it's said outright) and that thread is aptly named with too many posts it contains. It just seemed a little "off" to see a person ask a question about something and to have a reply instructing them to "go to the thread with the other whiners." Like I said, I didn't think it was written maliciously or with any ill-intent, it just came across as having a sharp antagonistic tone to it. And, like I said then (too), it may only be MY perception of the comment, but I did see that it COULD be perceived that way - not that it WAS absolutely being perceived that way. I've been told several times, politely and respectfully, that things I've said/posted have been taken the wrong way. I am glad when people do tell me when I've said/posted something that could be (when done politely and respectfully - as I tried to be with Bobby (and I do hope that I did that much, at least)) so I can try to be more mindful of what I say/write in the future for the sake of being more respectful and considerate of others. But that's just me, I'm told I'm odd that (and on a lot of other) way(s).

And one more thing Bobby - You a Dragonriders of Pern fan, or do you just know some of the series' terminology? And I'll really be impressed if you know who Zor is (without going to Google, or whatever search engine you use). *g*

fgviva: here's a sample MacOS letter you may rewrite to suit your purposes...try to include the name of the company's software program that caught your eye:

***
Good Morning,

I discovered your site shortly after purchasing my iMac and, of course, thought of you when I learned the hugely popular Giveaway of the Day site was pondering the feasibility of mac @ giveaway of the day.

The Giveaway team would purchase your software and, in turn, offer it on their site for a 24-hour period. During that time, there would be no free technical support, no free upgrades and no free replacement if lost. You, in turn, would receive creative and constructive feedback on your software from many of the tens of thousands of daily visitors to Giveaway of the Day. Many independent developers have enjoyed a marked increase in sales after their software was showcased on Giveaway of the Day.

I hope you choose to participate in the project. You can get more information by visiting giveaway of the day dot com and choosing the 'for developers' link. You may also call, toll free, 1.888.441.0638. I hope to see your software featured there soon. I am sure it will be a hit!

Sincerely,

Although you did certainly jump to an erroneous conclusion, WeyrleaderZor, there's no offense taken. I'm much too old to be riled, even by young dragonriders.

***

A sharp Navy salute to Miss Maizey and our Mango Princess. Hope you both enjoyed a peace-filled weekend!

Hello Weyrleader
I really do think your comments are uncalled for.
There is *nothing* in Bobby's posts that could be accusatory or malicious. And she certainly is *NOT* a troll!!!
You don't even know what you are talking about and come up w conclusions??

Bobby, as usual, was being HELPFUL!!!!

She is referring to another thread, the title of which is Whiners from early today and she *kindly* wrote a basic letter to help out others who wanted to contact Games Distributors!!

Please don't come here and accuse a very kind & generous & gentle member of this forum of something she is certainly not guilty of!!!

You are the one being "harsh" and "jumping to conclusions"! The WRONG conclusions!!

WeyrleaderZor, I'm certain that there was no malicious intent to Bobby's post. She was just pointing to the example of a letter on how to write to software developers. :)

Bobby, no need to be harsh about it. fgviva was just asking a question about the Mac version. It's entirely possible that (s)he didn't see the blog/main page post(s) about the subject and simply did the next logical and best thing to do - hit the forums to see what kind of information asking a question could drum up.

Don't be so quick to label people "whiners" just because they're asking about the possibility (or progress) of something being worked on/added to the site, because fgviva was not whining or complaining in any way. To just use a knee-jerk reaction and "verbally" backhand a person for asking a question makes the claims of those who really are "whiners" seem less and less justified when you do - it makes you look like a troll who delights in trying to rile up others with cheap insults and sniping comments.

However, I don't think that was the intent of your post, but it did seem to come across that way (at least to me). I don't see any reason to believe you were trying to be a pain or troll, but like I said the wording of your post almost seemed to have an aggressive and/or malicious snide tone. It doesn't bother me one way or the other - if you didn't mean it, so much the better; if you did, well I'll just ignore comments from you in the future (like I do to the real trolls on sites I frequent when they pop up - don't these people have anything better to do with their time? *g*). I don't think that I've got to worry about that just from this post though, like I said I don't believe you meant for it to come across that way - and its possible it's just my perception of the post and that no one else will see it that way (and if that's the case, do as I would to an annoyance and ignore my remarks here - I'd deserve it I suppose.). :o)

I posted a sample letter under the 'whiners' thread. It's geared toward games but can be easily altered for Mac software. Hope it helps.

Sure, that would be great.
I have used your service on my PC, but now i am back to Mac
Any thing i can do just say so
frank

I believe that is a work in progress. First, it is necessary to line up software developers that are willing to work with Mac giveaways. To that end, I have been writing letters to various independent software developers and telling them about the mac @ giveawayoftheday project. If you like, I can post a sample letter that you can send to developers, also.

Dose GOTD ever offer Mac OS programs?

While you are playing in the options - I noticed it is conecting back to the EverNote servers. Turning off the option "Check for updated version of the program upon start" should fix it.

For people who are new to this site (Hi There, you know who you are) - some giveaways in the past revert to trial mode status - when the well intentioned user agrees to install an update after being prompted by the program.

Moral - Turn off the "updated version" check if you think you might be tempted to click "OK" on dialogs without reading properly. You've been warned. ;)

gotta hand it to you, that was a very good analogy (or so I'm told).... :-)
hg

I'm running iMac OSX with Parallels Desktop, which allows me to simultaneously run Windows in a virtual environment. I've become accustomed to opening Parallels in order to test drive any of the giveaways, and then minimizing the Windows environment to continue working in Mac. I have never had a program from the virtual environment cross over to the Mac environment, until Ever Note.

A word of caution to other Mac users: Ensure that you UNCHECK the preferences box allowing Ever Note to start up with Windows. Trust me on this one. While sampling fonts in a text file on Mac, EverNote (running in the minimized Parallels) grabbed every instance of the sampled text (and I have a LOT of fonts). I happened to notice the dock filling up with dozens...and dozens of EverNote icons.

Sure, I can laugh now (ha.ha.) but for a moment, the EverNote icons were flashing faster than popups on an x-rated site (ahh...or so I'm told).

GREAT program, though. Just make sure you retain the option to start manually.

Sigh.

Thanks for the rapid responses, folks!

Haven't tried Boot Camp, but I did purchase Parallels, which is a program allowing XP to run in a virtual environment on this Intel-based Mac. The activation process does not always work there, either. (Wish I had known about Boot Camp prior to purchasing Parallels!)

On the bright side, all of my too-dang-expensive graphic manipulation programs (like Photoshop and PhotoImpact) work just fine within Parallels. The Giveaways are the only items that will not, and only because of the activation process.

There´s a dual boot manager if you got an Intel Mac.
It´s called Bootcamp and provided by Apple.
With that tool you can create a NTFS partition and directly install WinXP on the Mac. :-)

http://www.apple.com/macosx/bootcamp/

Great news. The boot manager will be part of the next version of OS X.

Mac programs? on Giveaway? maybe in the far future, i guess as most users have Windows OS insead of Mac...

I recently upgraded to an iMac (yessss) and am still experiencing a learning curve, especially with GotD offers. I've already learned about the 'drag to applications folder' for some installations, and use StuffIT for others...

but when I try to activate a Giveaway, it wants to bring up BlueTooth to phone home (not installed...using AirPort). This happens even within Parallels' virtual WindowsXP environment.

What Mac program can I use to install and activate Giveaways, if any? Are any of the Giveaways suitable for iMac? If not, can the remarkably resourceful Giveaway team (shameless, I know) arrange to get iMac or 'nix programs?